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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v10 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:41:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izNwmXQTLc9VADpushYKyeJ4ZY4G9aV47W2-1St65-tKUg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdbc0d5f-bfbc-4f58-a6dd-c13b0bb5ff1c@amd.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 5:38 AM Christian König
<christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>
> Am 10.06.24 um 14:16 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 02:07:01AM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> >> On 6/10/24 01:37, David Wei wrote:
> >>> On 2024-06-07 17:52, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>>> IMHO it seems to compose poorly if you can only use the io_uring
> >>>> lifecycle model with io_uring registered memory, and not with DMABUF
> >>>> memory registered through Mina's mechanism.
> >>> By this, do you mean io_uring must be exclusively used to use this
> >>> feature?
> >>>
> >>> And you'd rather see the two decoupled, so userspace can register w/ say
> >>> dmabuf then pass it to io_uring?
> >> Personally, I have no clue what Jason means. You can just as
> >> well say that it's poorly composable that write(2) to a disk
> >> cannot post a completion into a XDP ring, or a netlink socket,
> >> or io_uring's main completion queue, or name any other API.
> > There is no reason you shouldn't be able to use your fast io_uring
> > completion and lifecycle flow with DMABUF backed memory. Those are not
> > widly different things and there is good reason they should work
> > together.
>
> Well there is the fundamental problem that you can't use io_uring to
> implement the semantics necessary for a dma_fence.
>
> That's why we had to reject the io_uring work on DMA-buf sharing from
> Google a few years ago.
>

Any chance someone can link me to this? io_uring, as far as my
primitive understanding goes, is not yet very adopted at Google, and
I'm curious what this effort is.

-- 
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-10 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-30 20:15 [PATCH net-next v10 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 01/14] netdev: add netdev_rx_queue_restart() Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 23:51   ` David Wei
2024-06-03 12:52   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2024-06-01  5:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-03 14:17     ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-03 14:52       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-03 15:43         ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-07 13:42           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 14:27             ` David Ahern
2024-06-07 14:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10  0:37                 ` David Wei
2024-06-10  1:07                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 12:16                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10 12:38                       ` Christian König
2024-06-10 15:41                         ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2024-06-10 19:32                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 16:22                         ` Daniel Vetter
2024-06-11  6:25                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11  8:21                           ` Christian König
2024-06-10 15:16                       ` David Ahern
2024-06-10 19:20                         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10 22:15                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-11 18:09                             ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-12 12:06                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-12 15:47                                 ` David Ahern
2024-06-17 19:15                             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-11  6:26                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-11 17:48                           ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-07 15:42               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 15:46                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-07 16:59                   ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-10  1:12                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-10  0:27               ` David Wei
2024-06-05  8:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-07 13:45           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-11  6:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-17 18:04               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-18  6:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-18 11:40                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-05  8:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 03/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 04/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 05/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:13   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-04 16:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04 16:31       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-04 16:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-04 23:44           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-05  0:27             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-05  0:52               ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-06  1:43                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-07  7:55               ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 06/14] page_pool: convert to use netmem Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:23   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-06  1:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-07 12:31     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 07/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 08/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 09/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 10/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:46   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-06 16:49     ` Mina Almasry
2024-06-06 16:58       ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 11/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-06-04 10:53   ` Paolo Abeni
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 12/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 13/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-06-01 13:09   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-05-30 20:16 ` [PATCH net-next v10 14/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry

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