From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv1 08/14] iommufd: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET_DEV_ID ioctl
Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 10:19:12 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240524131912.GT20229@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52762A0BC67B64D4171480C78CF52@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 07:13:23AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 1:40 PM
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 06:42:56AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > btw there is a check in the following code:
> > >
> > > + if (viommu->iommu_dev != idev->dev->iommu->iommu_dev) {
> > > + rc = -EINVAL;
> > > + goto out_put_viommu;
> > > + }
> > >
> > > I vaguely remember an earlier discussion about multiple vSMMU instances
> > > following the physical SMMU topology, but don't quite recall the exact
> > > reason.
> > >
> > > What is the actual technical obstacle prohibiting one to put multiple
> > > VCMDQ's from different SMMU's into one vIOMMU instance?
> >
> > Because a VCMDQ passthrough involves a direct mmap of a HW MMIO
> > page to the guest-level MMIO region. The MMIO page provides the
> > read/write of queue's head and tail indexes.
> >
> > With a single pSMMU and a single vSMMU, it's simply 1:1 mapping.
> >
> > With a multi-pSMMU and a single vSMMU, the single vSMMU will see
> > one guest-level MMIO region backed by multiple physical pages.
> > Since we are talking about MMIO, technically it cannot select the
> > corresponding MMIO page to the device, not to mention we don't
> > really want VMM to involve, i.e. no VM exist, when using VCMDQ.
>
> can a vSMMU report to support multiple CMDQ's then there are
> several MMIO regions each mapped to a different backend VCMDQ?
This is something I want to support in the API, regardless vCMDQ uses
it or not..
> but I guess even if it's supported there is still a problem describing
> the association between assigned devices and the CMDQ's of the
> single vIOMMU instance.
CMDQ should be linked to the VIOMMU instance only and not per-device,
I think that is a very important property of the system.
This means if there are multiple pSMMU instances then we need a
matching set of vSMMU instances so that the devices are grouped on the
proper vSMMU instance so they are compatible with the vCMDQ.
> I'm curious to learn the real reason of that design. Is it because you
> want to do certain load-balance between viommu's or due to other
> reasons in the kernel smmuv3 driver which e.g. cannot support a
> viommu spanning multiple pSMMU?
Yeah, there is no concept of support for a SMMUv3 instance where it's
command Q's can only work on a subset of devices.
My expectation was that VIOMMU would be 1:1 with physical iommu
instances, I think AMD needs this too??
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-24 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-13 3:46 [PATCH RFCv1 00/14] Add Tegra241 (Grace) CMDQV Support (part 2/2) Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:46 ` [PATCH RFCv1 01/14] iommufd: Move iommufd_object to public iommufd header Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 13:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-12 22:40 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-13 22:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-13 3:46 ` [PATCH RFCv1 02/14] iommufd: Swap _iommufd_object_alloc and __iommufd_object_alloc Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 13:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 2:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-13 3:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-13 22:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 03/14] iommufd: Prepare for viommu structures and functions Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 13:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 2:35 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 04/14] iommufd: Add struct iommufd_viommu and iommufd_viommu_ops Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 3:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-14 15:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 8:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 9:57 ` Baolu Lu
2024-05-22 13:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 1:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 4:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-23 5:40 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 12:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24 2:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24 2:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 05/14] iommufd: Add IOMMUFD_OBJ_VIOMMU and IOMMUFD_CMD_VIOMMU_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 4:33 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-14 15:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-15 1:20 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-21 18:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 0:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-22 16:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 06/14] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_ALLOC test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 07/14] iommufd: Add viommu set/unset_dev_id ops Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 14:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 4:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-14 15:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-15 1:59 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-21 18:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 22:27 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-22 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 6:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24 2:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 3:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-24 5:24 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 5:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-24 7:21 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 5:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 6:09 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-23 6:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 13:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-12 14:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 08/14] iommufd: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET_DEV_ID ioctl Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 14:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 5:24 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-17 5:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-21 18:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 2:15 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-23 6:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 5:40 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-24 7:13 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-05-27 1:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-28 20:22 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-28 20:33 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-29 2:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-29 3:20 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-30 0:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-30 0:58 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-30 3:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-30 4:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-01 21:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-03 3:25 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-06 18:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-06 18:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-07 0:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-07 0:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-06-07 14:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-07 21:19 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-10 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10 20:01 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-10 22:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-10 23:04 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-11 0:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-11 0:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-06-11 12:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-11 19:11 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-28 20:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-24 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 09/14] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_VIOMMU_SET_DEV_ID test coverage Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 10/14] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_MV_CHECK_DEV_ID Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 11/14] iommufd: Add struct iommufd_vqueue and its related viommu ops Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 12/14] iommufd: Add IOMMUFD_OBJ_VQUEUE and IOMMUFD_CMD_VQUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 15:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 4:41 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-13 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 6:57 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 4:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-24 5:26 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 6:03 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-23 7:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 13/14] iommufd: Add mmap infrastructure Nicolin Chen
2024-05-12 15:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13 4:43 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-04-13 3:47 ` [PATCH RFCv1 14/14] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2024-05-22 8:40 ` [PATCH RFCv1 00/14] Add Tegra241 (Grace) CMDQV Support (part 2/2) Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 16:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 19:47 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-22 23:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 23:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 3:09 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-05-23 12:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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