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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Vetter, Daniel" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
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	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 4/5] vfio/type1: Flush CPU caches on DMA pages in non-coherent domains
Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 23:40:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276C2DD3F924ED2EB6AD3988CEB2@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240522233213.GI20229@nvidia.com>

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 7:32 AM
> 
> On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:26:21PM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 8:30 PM
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 06:24:14AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > I'm fine to do a special check in the attach path to enable the flush
> > > > only for Intel GPU.
> > >
> > > We already effectively do this already by checking the domain
> > > capabilities. Only the Intel GPU will have a non-coherent domain.
> > >
> >
> > I'm confused. In earlier discussions you wanted to find a way to not
> > publish others due to the check of non-coherent domain, e.g. some
> > ARM SMMU cannot force snoop.
> >
> > Then you and Alex discussed the possibility of reducing pessimistic
> > flushes by virtualizing the PCI NOSNOOP bit.
> >
> > With that in mind I was thinking whether we explicitly enable this
> > flush only for Intel GPU instead of checking non-coherent domain
> > in the attach path, since it's the only device with such requirement.
> 
> I am suggesting to do both checks:
>  - If the iommu domain indicates it has force coherency then leave PCI
>    no-snoop alone and no flush
>  - If the PCI NOSNOOP bit is or can be 0 then no flush
>  - Otherwise flush

How to judge whether PCI NOSNOOP can be 0? If following PCI spec
it can always be set to 0 but then we break the requirement for Intel
GPU. If we explicitly exempt Intel GPU in 2nd check  then what'd be
the value of doing that generic check?

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-22 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07  6:18 [PATCH 0/5] Enforce CPU cache flush for non-coherent device assignment Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:19 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/pat: Let pat_pfn_immune_to_uc_mtrr() check MTRR for untracked PAT range Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:12     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-08 22:14       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-09  3:36         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:42       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 14:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20  2:36           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: x86/mmu: Fine-grained check of whether a invalid & RAM PFN is MMIO Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:19     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/mm: Introduce and export interface arch_clean_nonsnoop_dma() Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:40     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-20 14:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-21 15:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:41         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-28  6:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-01 19:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-06  2:48             ` Yan Zhao
2024-06-06 11:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-07  9:39                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio/type1: Flush CPU caches on DMA pages in non-coherent domains Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 18:10   ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-10 10:31     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 16:57       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-13  7:11         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:53           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  8:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 20:31             ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17 17:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-20  2:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-21 16:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:21                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 16:34                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 18:19                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 18:37                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  6:24                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 12:29                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 14:43                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 16:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 18:22                                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 23:26                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 23:32                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 23:40                                     ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2024-05-23 14:58                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 22:47                                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-24  0:30                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:50                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:33                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  3:24                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 12:26                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24  3:07                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16 20:50           ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  3:11             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17  4:44               ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  5:00                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] iommufd: " Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 14:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-10  8:03     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13  7:43         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-14 15:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-15  7:06             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-15 20:43               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-16  2:32                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  8:38                   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  9:48                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17 17:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-20  2:45                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-21 16:04                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:17                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  6:29                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 17:01                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-27  7:15                               ` Yan Zhao
2024-06-01 16:48                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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