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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
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	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/5] x86/pat: Let pat_pfn_immune_to_uc_mtrr() check MTRR for untracked PAT range
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 02:36:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276FF52AD334D78F80985138CE92@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkYTByuHu_IptChR@google.com>

> From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 10:07 PM
> 
> +Tom
> 
> On Thu, May 16, 2024, Kevin Tian wrote:
> > > From: Zhao, Yan Y <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 5:13 PM
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 07, 2024 at 04:26:37PM +0800, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > > From: Zhao, Yan Y <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 2:19 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -705,7 +705,17 @@ static enum page_cache_mode
> > > > > lookup_memtype(u64 paddr)
> > > > >   */
> > > > >  bool pat_pfn_immune_to_uc_mtrr(unsigned long pfn)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > -	enum page_cache_mode cm =
> lookup_memtype(PFN_PHYS(pfn));
> > > > > +	u64 paddr = PFN_PHYS(pfn);
> > > > > +	enum page_cache_mode cm;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * Check MTRR type for untracked pat range since
> lookup_memtype()
> > > > > always
> > > > > +	 * returns WB for this range.
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	if (x86_platform.is_untracked_pat_range(paddr, paddr +
> PAGE_SIZE))
> > > > > +		cm = pat_x_mtrr_type(paddr, paddr + PAGE_SIZE,
> > > > > _PAGE_CACHE_MODE_WB);
> > > >
> > > > doing so violates the name of this function. The PAT of the untracked
> > > > range is still WB and not immune to UC MTRR.
> > > Right.
> > > Do you think we can rename this function to something like
> > > pfn_of_uncachable_effective_memory_type() and make it work under
> > > !pat_enabled() too?
> >
> > let's hear from x86/kvm maintainers for their opinions.
> >
> > My gut-feeling is that kvm_is_mmio_pfn() might be moved into the
> > x86 core as the logic there has nothing specific to kvm itself. Also
> > naming-wise it doesn't really matter whether the pfn is mmio. The
> > real point is to find the uncacheble memtype in the primary mmu
> > and then follow it in KVM.
> 
> Yeaaaah, we've got an existing problem there.  When AMD's SME is enabled,
> KVM
> uses kvm_is_mmio_pfn() to determine whether or not to map memory into
> the guest
> as encrypted or plain text.  I.e. KVM really does try to use this helper to
> detect MMIO vs. RAM.  I highly doubt that actually works in all setups.
> 
> For SME, it seems like the best approach would be grab the C-Bit from the
> host
> page tables, similar to how KVM uses host_pfn_mapping_level().

yes that sounds clearer. Checking MMIO vs. RAM is kind of indirect hint.

> 
> SME aside, I don't have objection to moving kvm_is_mmio_pfn() out of KVM.
> 
> > from that point probably a pfn_memtype_uncacheable() reads clearer.
> 
> or even just pfn_is_memtype_uc()?

yes, better.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-20  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07  6:18 [PATCH 0/5] Enforce CPU cache flush for non-coherent device assignment Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:19 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86/pat: Let pat_pfn_immune_to_uc_mtrr() check MTRR for untracked PAT range Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:26   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:12     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-08 22:14       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-09  3:36         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:42       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 14:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-20  2:36           ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: x86/mmu: Fine-grained check of whether a invalid & RAM PFN is MMIO Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:39   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:19     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86/mm: Introduce and export interface arch_clean_nonsnoop_dma() Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  8:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-07  9:40     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-20 14:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-21 15:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:41         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-28  6:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-01 19:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-06  2:48             ` Yan Zhao
2024-06-06 11:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-07  9:39                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:21 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio/type1: Flush CPU caches on DMA pages in non-coherent domains Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 18:10   ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-10 10:31     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 16:57       ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-13  7:11         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  7:53           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  8:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16 20:31             ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17 17:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-20  2:52                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-21 16:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 16:21                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 16:34                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-21 18:19                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-21 18:37                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  6:24                             ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 12:29                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 14:43                                 ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 16:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 18:22                                     ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-22 23:26                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-22 23:32                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22 23:40                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-23 14:58                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-23 22:47                                         ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-24  0:30                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-24 13:50                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:33                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  3:24                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 12:26                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-24  3:07                             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16 20:50           ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  3:11             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17  4:44               ` Alex Williamson
2024-05-17  5:00                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-07  6:22 ` [PATCH 5/5] iommufd: " Yan Zhao
2024-05-09 14:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-10  8:03     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-10 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-13  7:43         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-14 15:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-15  7:06             ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-15 20:43               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-16  2:32                 ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-16  8:38                   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-05-16  9:48                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-17 17:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-20  2:45                     ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-21 16:04                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-22  3:17                         ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22  6:29                           ` Yan Zhao
2024-05-22 17:01                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-27  7:15                               ` Yan Zhao
2024-06-01 16:48                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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