From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 14:34:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wg8APE61e5Ddq5mwH55Eh0ZLDV4Tr+c6_gFS7g2AxnuHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240501151312.635565-1-tj@kernel.org>
[ Tejun reminded me about this, and discussion hasn't really gone
anywhere for much too long, so now I just need to be the person who
makes a decision and people can hate on ]
On Wed, 1 May 2024 at 08:13, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> This is v6 of sched_ext (SCX) patchset.
>
> During the past five months, both the development and adoption of sched_ext
> have been progressing briskly. Here are some highlights around adoption:
[...]
I honestly see no reason to delay this any more. This whole patchset
was the major (private) discussion at last year's kernel maintainer
summit, and I don't find any value in having the same discussion
(whether off-list or as an actual event) at the upcoming maintainer
summit one year later, so to make any kind of sane progress, my
current plan is to merge this for 6.11.
At least that way, we're making progress, and the discussion at KS
2024 can be about my mental acuity - or lack thereof - rather than
about rehashing the same thing that clearly made no progress last
year.
I've never been a huge believer in trying to make everybody happy with
code that is out of tree - we're better off working together on it
in-tree.
And using the "in order to accept this, some other thing has to be
fixed first" argument doesn't really work well either (and _that_ has
been discussed for over a decade at various maintainer summits).
Maybe the people who have concerns about this can work on those
concerns when it's in-tree.
I'm also not a believer in the argument that has been used (multiple
times) that the BPF scheduler would keep people from participating in
scheduler development. I personally think the main thing that keeps
people from participating is too high barriers to participation.
Anyway, this is the heads-up to Tejun to please just send me a pull
request for the next merge window.
And for everybody else as a "It's happening" heads-up.
[ Please just mentally insert the "IT'S HAPPENING" meme gif here -
because if I actually were to include it here, lkml would just reject
this email. Sometimes the anti-html rules don't work in our favor ].
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-11 21:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-01 15:09 [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 01/39] cgroup: Implement cgroup_show_cftypes() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 02/39] sched: Restructure sched_class order sanity checks in sched_init() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 03/39] sched: Allow sched_cgroup_fork() to fail and introduce sched_cancel_fork() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 04/39] sched: Add sched_class->reweight_task() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 10:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 23:59 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25 7:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:57 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26 1:29 ` [PATCH sched/urgent] sched/fair: set_load_weight() must also call reweight_task() for SCHED_IDLE tasks Tejun Heo
2024-06-26 2:19 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched_ext: Account for idle policy when setting p->scx.weight in scx_ops_enable_task() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 05/39] sched: Add sched_class->switching_to() and expose check_class_changing/changed() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 22:18 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 06/39] sched: Factor out cgroup weight conversion functions Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 07/39] sched: Expose css_tg() and __setscheduler_prio() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 18:56 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 08/39] sched: Enumerate CPU cgroup file types Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 09/39] sched: Add @reason to sched_class->rq_{on|off}line() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 11:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 21:18 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25 8:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:41 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-26 18:01 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-27 1:27 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched_ext: Disallow loading BPF scheduler if isolcpus= domain isolation is in effect Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 10/39] sched: Factor out update_other_load_avgs() from __update_blocked_others() Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 16:15 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-24 19:24 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25 9:13 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-26 20:49 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 11/39] cpufreq_schedutil: Refactor sugov_cpu_is_busy() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 12/39] sched: Add normal_policy() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 13/39] sched_ext: Add boilerplate for extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 14/39] sched_ext: Implement BPF " Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 15/39] sched_ext: Add scx_simple and scx_example_qmap example schedulers Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 16/39] sched_ext: Add sysrq-S which disables the BPF scheduler Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 17/39] sched_ext: Implement runnable task stall watchdog Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 18/39] sched_ext: Allow BPF schedulers to disallow specific tasks from joining SCHED_EXT Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 19:06 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 19/39] sched_ext: Print sched_ext info when dumping stack Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 14:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-24 18:34 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 20/39] sched_ext: Print debug dump after an error exit Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 21/39] tools/sched_ext: Add scx_show_state.py Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 22/39] sched_ext: Implement scx_bpf_kick_cpu() and task preemption support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 23/39] sched_ext: Add a central scheduler which makes all scheduling decisions on one CPU Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:09 ` [PATCH 24/39] sched_ext: Make watchdog handle ops.dispatch() looping stall Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 25/39] sched_ext: Add task state tracking operations Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 26/39] sched_ext: Implement tickless support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 27/39] sched_ext: Track tasks that are subjects of the in-flight SCX operation Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 28/39] sched_ext: Add cgroup support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 29/39] sched_ext: Add a cgroup scheduler which uses flattened hierarchy Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 30/39] sched_ext: Implement SCX_KICK_WAIT Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 31/39] sched_ext: Implement sched_ext_ops.cpu_acquire/release() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 32/39] sched_ext: Implement sched_ext_ops.cpu_online/offline() Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 33/39] sched_ext: Bypass BPF scheduler while PM events are in progress Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 34/39] sched_ext: Implement core-sched support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 35/39] sched_ext: Add vtime-ordered priority queue to dispatch_q's Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 36/39] sched_ext: Implement DSQ iterator Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 37/39] sched_ext: Add cpuperf support Tejun Heo
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 38/39] sched_ext: Documentation: scheduler: Document extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-05-02 2:24 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-05-01 15:10 ` [PATCH 39/39] sched_ext: Add selftests Tejun Heo
2024-05-02 8:48 ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-02 19:20 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-03 8:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-05 23:31 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-13 8:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-13 18:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-05-14 0:07 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-14 21:34 ` David Vernet
2024-05-27 21:25 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-28 23:46 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-29 22:09 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-17 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-05-27 20:29 ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-14 20:22 ` Chris Mason
2024-05-14 22:06 ` Josh Don
2024-05-15 20:41 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-21 0:19 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-30 16:49 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-06 18:47 ` Rik van Riel
2024-05-07 19:33 ` Tejun Heo
2024-05-07 19:47 ` Rik van Riel
2024-05-09 7:38 ` Changwoo Min
2024-05-10 18:24 ` Peter Jung
2024-05-13 20:36 ` Andrea Righi
2024-06-11 21:34 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2024-06-13 23:38 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-19 20:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-19 22:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-19 22:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-19 22:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20 2:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-20 5:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20 17:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-20 17:41 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 22:15 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched, sched_ext: Replace scx_next_task_picked() with sched_class->switch_class() Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-21 19:46 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 18:41 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-21 19:52 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 21:01 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-25 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-25 23:30 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-26 8:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-26 17:56 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 18:47 ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-20 19:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-21 9:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-21 16:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-06-23 2:00 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-23 10:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-23 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-24 14:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-20 19:58 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-24 20:17 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 20:51 ` [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.11] sched, sched_ext: Simplify dl_prio() case handling in sched_fork() Tejun Heo
2024-06-20 19:35 ` [PATCHSET v6] sched: Implement BPF extensible scheduler class Tejun Heo
2024-06-21 10:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-21 21:14 ` Chris Mason
2024-06-23 8:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-06-24 16:42 ` Chris Mason
2024-06-24 18:11 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-24 22:01 ` Peter Oskolkov
2024-06-24 22:17 ` David Vernet
2024-06-24 21:54 ` Peter Oskolkov
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