From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail-wm0-x232.google.com (mail-wm0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1401E20970 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 17:33:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-x232.google.com with SMTP id w64so69555258wma.0 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:33:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=godfat.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=P/X+w8urvsddrShxcyW5rR4jsrNifMrMLocFCV3TLtM=; b=YOILB5Ynnsqly3Dziod8j00WZvNTlISzKxDml6ugvavgFE/XQRtFZoHmK+nmt9eC4i x7CD9Z9JAeIwoOYopqf/F48aDUo2Bp+HBYz/cxqD3k7Dqyre2f7vakfugvb9N+S4oy3F IHp9Nj/Md0sxf9aU+SAINN5osgb61SZXuwI0g= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=P/X+w8urvsddrShxcyW5rR4jsrNifMrMLocFCV3TLtM=; b=syfue7JDh6fSHMzN5FpD0j6Y2M+YlgvwZwtAZ9m8FQi+1Xb2mtgJmhuFPbCjCX+VyY Yi+/WPmPeeaeNCIB7M+3LuWIEiOW73fDAM7VWjv5yRuBwg9Q3SU3VDMoEoeEjGCBUuJv y1n1WYgkE9M8SgvPKnAeocONLDkOTiDSu0wA0M50qBNsa3EsItw8F55jeZ/l2Vme+ZRs tSOC/g2lMEbg/o4yBtkLs/SzLOyNgLsU6stGpPPy5qGo4y+9Ggc4zlmMU5UG/9QvMymF gws8hwrJluNt7CoS22xGheeyig0UeDsn/iVXJKYXMO5B3mvlzfhYN70Xnk8yQE3OJ9fw XbMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5YJ4lnSppFqOl97+VoP5eHtgf9MlPJfd9i39DkKVUsYQSAMR6f PcunPIM+YzklKa/8+zBADgnjjwLspg== X-Received: by 10.28.54.7 with SMTP id d7mr15499763wma.114.1491932024508; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.142.130 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:33:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20170411072939.GA29089@whir> References: <20170410145416.GA29475@starla> <20170410173657.GA4203@starla> <20170410203905.GA2922@whir> <20170411072939.GA29089@whir> From: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:33:13 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] README: add info about mailing list subscription To: Eric Wong Cc: kcar-public@bogomips.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 List-Id: On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Eric Wong wrote: > Yes; that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion... > nntp2imap would work like feed2imap currently does: > > The client (your machine) downloads from a server via > (NNTP|RSS|Atom) and writes to any IMAP inbox, also as a > client. Nothing I've talked about involves either me or > readers of this list (you included) running a new IMAP > server :) > > But yeah, AFAIK GMail allows you to use any IMAP client > (including feed2imap) to write mail to GMail servers; > which you can then read via webmail or another IMAP client. > > > I guess part where I confused you is GMail supports POP3 both as > a client (so they can read mail off your ISP/work/school mail > servers) and as a server (so you can also read all the messages > they can also read :) But yeah, POP3 is rather dated since > most people prefer email accessible from multiple machines > and it's clumsy with POP3. Oh, that's exactly where the confusion was coming from. Indeed I am using POP3 to fetch mails from my other GMail accounts into one inbox, so that I have backups. Thank you for clarifying this. > Maybe some janky arrows in ASCII art will help: > > >----SMTP ---->+ > (you) <----POP3----<-+ .----< POP3 ---< (work|ISP|school POP3) > ^----<----webmail->-> GMail < > +----<----IMAP---->-' `-----< SMTP--< (rest of the world) > ^ > | > |`---< feed2imap --<- RSS/Atom feeds > | > `---< nntp2imap --<- NNTP > > *shrug* /me is sleepy :x Nice art :P So I guess the plan could be that I setup nntp2imap to read mails via NNTP and write mails into my GMail inbox via IMAP. The only thing I am a bit worried is that several years ago when I was still using desktop email clients, setting up IMAP to read mails could be deleting mails from my webmail inbox. It could be misconfiguration, or it would not happen on GMail I don't know. This is the main reason why I am still using POP3. >> > be a part of yahns (Ruby) and not part of public-inbox (Perl5) >> > at this point; so maybe you would be willing host that for >> > other people, too :) >> >> Yeah, sure, as long as I don't have to expand my existing server, >> I am willing to host it and maintain it for other people. > > Thanks for the feedback. One of my goals is to keep Free Software > inexpensive to run :) Inexpensive therefore more accessible and easier to be distributed and the system would be more robust :)