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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <regressions@leemhuis.info>
To: Mirsad Goran Todorovac <mirsad.todorovac@alu.unizg.hr>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Marc Miltenberger <marcmiltenberger@gmail.com>,
	"regressions@lists.linux.dev" <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
	Slade Watkins <srw@sladewatkins.net>
Subject: Re: BUG reproduced: 6.0.0-RC kernels trigger Firefox snap bug with 6.0.0-rc3 through 6.0.0-rc7
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2022 08:45:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <021de720-4a57-1a88-f456-fcaeaa3653de@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c40786ab-8b3b-9b64-683f-dac589c024df@alu.unizg.hr>

On 08.10.22 18:43, Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
> On 08. 10. 2022. 15:41, Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
>> On 06. 10. 2022. 18:58, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>> On 06.10.22 18:43, Mirsad Goran Todorovac wrote:
>>>> On 06. 10. 2022. 15:23, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>>> On 06.10.22 14:43, Mirsad Todorovac wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/6/22 14:25, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One more question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06.10.22 14:00, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>>>>>> Were those two vanilla kernels? I asked in #snappy on IRC and was
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> that "snapd simply expects some ubuntu bit in patched into the
>>>>>>> kernel if
>>>>>>> it detects that it runs on an official ubuntu install...". This
>>>>>>> was also
>>>>>>> suggested "it probably makes sense to file a but in LP to make the
>>>>>>> kernel team aware".
>>>>>> Yes, last time I tried it with git clone from linux_stable on
>>>>>> kernel.org
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> config-6.0.0-060000-generic from the official Ubuntu mainline build
>>>>> You don't want to do that. Better take the config used to build a
>>>>> working kernel (say 5.19.y) and then build 6.0 with it (after running
>>>>> "make olddefconfig"), because it might be a new kernel option (say
>>>>> for a
>>>>> new security technique) that might cause the problem, as explained
>>>>> here:
>>>>> https://docs.kernel.org/admin-guide/reporting-regressions.html
>>>> If I understood well, that would mean building www.kernel.org git
>>>> linux_stable
>>>> source with Ubuntu's config-5.9.13-051903?
>>> I meant "please download Linux 6.0 (ideally through git, that you have
>>> everything to perform a bisection), add the config from a working kernel
>>> (if config-5.9.13-051903 is one, yeah, then take that) as .config and
>>> then run "make olddefconfig" before compiling and installing the kernel
>>> to see if 6.0 fails with that config that was working.
>>
>> Having done this build with mentioned config-5.19.13-051903-config from
>> Ubuntu's mainline build and your recommended make option
>> had produced a kernel that so far did not exhibit the Firefox snap
>> "tab crash/wrong Verneed record version" bug.
>>
>> However, the uptime is 1d 18h50min, so it might be too early to draw
>> a definite general conclusion.
>>
>> Now, the brave conlusion seems to be that the culprit is one of the
>> modules
>> added in config-6.0.0-060000-generic.
>> [...]

A new module might be one possible explanation for such a situations,
but there are others that are more likely.

> I know that it is uncool to reply one's own email,

No, it's not. At least not in the land of the Linux kernel. :-D

> but this is new development:
> 
> After starting a zoom spawned session, the Firefox snap tab crash
> reappeared.
> 
> I will reinstate that if was done with the config-5.19.13-generic and
> "make olddefconfig"
> followed by a "make -j 10 deb-pkg" build.
> 
> Here is the exact log of my actions:
> 
>   678  10/06/2022 06:44:58 PM  vi config-5.19.13-051913-generic
>   679  10/06/2022 06:45:21 PM  time rm -rf linux_stable_build/
>   680  10/06/2022 06:45:31 PM  time cp -rp linux_stable linux_stable_build
>   681  10/06/2022 06:46:39 PM  time diff -ur linux_stable linux_stable_build
>   682  10/06/2022 06:47:38 PM  cp config-5.19.13-051913-generic
> linux_stable_build/.config
>   683  10/06/2022 06:47:46 PM  cd linux_stable_build
>   684  10/06/2022 06:47:51 PM  make olddefconfig
>   685  10/06/2022 06:48:05 PM  time nice make -j10 deb-pkg

Yeah, then it's pretty certain that his is a regression. But it could be
caused by all sorts of things and I have no idea where to start. We thus
really could need a bisection to find the root of the problem. This will
be hard, as this crash only happens infrequently. Thing is: the Ubuntu
developers likely have a strong interest in this particular issue and
due to their knowledge of snap have way better chances to pin-point the
root case quickly. So submitting a bug report to them might be the best
way forward in this situation, even if the kernel is likely at fault here.

Ciao, Thorsten

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-09  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-27 17:57 6.0.0-RC kernels trigger Firefox snap bug with 6.0.0-rc3 through 6.0.0-rc7 Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-09-30 10:48 ` BUG: " Mirsad Todorovac
2022-09-30 11:21   ` Slade Watkins
2022-09-30 11:44     ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-09-30 12:03       ` Slade Watkins
2022-09-30 18:27         ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-03  8:18           ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-07  8:47             ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-07 10:55               ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-06 10:39   ` Marc Miltenberger
2022-10-06 16:27     ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-06 12:00 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-10-06 12:25   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-10-06 12:43     ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-06 13:23       ` Thorsten Leemhuis
     [not found]         ` <c05134cc-92fa-dac2-e738-cf6fae194521@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-06 16:58           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
     [not found]             ` <f23494b5-b4ea-a32a-e260-4541039dedc8@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-07  6:09               ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-07  6:31               ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-08 13:41             ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-08 16:46               ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
     [not found]               ` <c40786ab-8b3b-9b64-683f-dac589c024df@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-09  6:45                 ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2022-10-09 22:45                   ` BUG reproduced: " Slade Watkins
2022-10-11 17:53                     ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-12  6:05                 ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-12 22:58                   ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-06 12:38   ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-12  7:46 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-13 13:24   ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-14 10:32     ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-14 12:28       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-14 15:06         ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-14 21:44         ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
     [not found]           ` <ddf13e46-c091-80b2-3b57-c43ac45435f0@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-15 14:59             ` Fwd: BISECT result: " Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-15 15:32             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-10-15 20:59               ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-16 12:21                 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-16 12:24                   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-16 12:43                     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-11-04 12:06                       ` BISECT result: 6.0.0-RC kernels trigger Firefox snap bug with 6.0.0-rc3 through 6.0.0-rc7 #forregzbot Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-10-17  9:45                   ` BISECT result: 6.0.0-RC kernels trigger Firefox snap bug with 6.0.0-rc3 through 6.0.0-rc7 Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-17 12:32                     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-17 17:25                       ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-18  1:38                         ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-18  8:35                     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-16 15:55                 ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-16 19:55                   ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-16 20:19                     ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-17  2:03                       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-17  2:41                         ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-17  4:15                           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-17  8:32                             ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-17 13:22                     ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-17 13:59                       ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-18  5:49                         ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-18  2:15                 ` Jintao Yin
2022-10-18  6:52                   ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-18  8:24                     ` Hsin-Yi Wang
2022-10-18  9:23                       ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-18 12:59                       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-18 13:38                         ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-18 13:36                       ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-18  7:23                   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-18  8:33                     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-18 17:15                   ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-18 17:41                     ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-18 17:41                     ` Phillip Lougher
     [not found]                       ` <1b41bf99-754e-8b90-cc2c-67f50642e2dc@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-18 21:34                         ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-19  5:17                       ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-19 11:07                         ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-19  7:53                       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-20  6:59                       ` Jintao Yin
2022-10-20  7:43                       ` Jintao Yin
2022-10-20  9:51                         ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-20 13:02                         ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-20 13:55                       ` Jintao Yin
2022-10-20 15:00                         ` Mirsad Todorovac
2022-10-20 15:45                         ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-20 23:23                           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-20 23:44                             ` Slade Watkins
2022-10-21  1:48                               ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-21  7:12                                 ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-21  8:33                                 ` Mirsad Goran Todorovac
2022-10-21  3:09                           ` Jintao Yin
2022-10-20 15:49                         ` Phillip Lougher
2022-10-20 16:00                         ` Mirsad Todorovac
     [not found]         ` <fa6c69ff-a493-a519-3564-1a1ccb932553@alu.unizg.hr>
2022-10-18 10:55           ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-10-18 11:07             ` Mirsad Todorovac

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