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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	dslutz@verizon.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: QEMU bumping memory bug analysis
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 20:06:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150605190623.GA26102@zion.uk.xensource.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506051811250.19838@kaball.uk.xensource.com>

On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 06:13:01PM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2015, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 17:43 +0100, Wei Liu wrote:
> > 
> > > 3. Add a libxl layer that wraps necessary information, take over
> > >    Andrew's work on libxl migration v2.  Having a libxl layer that's not
> > >    part of migration v2 is a waste of effort.
> > > 
> > > There are several obstacles for libxl migration v2 at the moment. Libxl
> > > layer in migration v2 still has unresolved issues. It has
> > > inter-dependency with Remus / COLO.
> > > 
> > > Most importantly it doesn't inherently solve the problem. It still
> > > requires the current libxl JSON blob to contain information about max
> > > pages
> > 
> > It doesn't require that, the whole point of the libxl layer is to
> > provide a suitable home for that information which is not the current
> > libxl json blob (which is user facing cfg data) or the libxc stream
> > (which is opaque to libxl).
> > 
> > Once you have the general concept of the libxl layer, adding a new field
> > to it will be trivial (because it will have been designed to be
> > trivially extendable).
> > 
> > >  (or information used to derive max pages).
> > > 
> > > Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong.
> > > 
> > > 4. Add a none user configurable field in current libxl JSON structure to
> > >    record max pages information.
> > > 
> > > This is not desirable. All fields in libxl JSON should be user
> > > configurable.
> > > 
> > > 5. Add a user configurable field in current libxl JSON structure to
> > >    record how much more memory this domain needs. Admin is required to
> > >    fill in that value manually. In the mean time we revert the change in
> > >    QEMU and declare QEMU with that change buggy.
> > > 
> > > No response to this so far. But in fact I consider this the most viable
> > > solution.
> > 
> > I initially thought that this was just #4 in a silly hat and was
> > therefore no more acceptable than that.
> > 
> > But actually I think you are suggesting that users should have to
> > manually request additional RAM for option roms via some new interface
> > and that the old thing in qemu should be deprecated and removed?
> > 
> > How would a user know what value to use here? Just "a bigger one till it
> > works"? That's, well, not super...
> 
> This should not be a user configurable field. In fact it only depends on
> the QEMU version in use.

That field is generic so that we can use it to add some extra pages to
domain. Using it to cover QEMU option roms would be one use case.  It's
not very nice, but it's straight-forward.

Wei.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-05 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-05 16:43 QEMU bumping memory bug analysis Wei Liu
2015-06-05 16:58 ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-05 17:13   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-05 19:06     ` Wei Liu [this message]
2015-06-05 17:17   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-05 17:39   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-05 17:10 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-05 18:10   ` Wei Liu
2015-06-08 11:39     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 12:14       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-08 13:01         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 13:33           ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-08 13:10       ` Wei Liu
2015-06-08 13:27         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 13:32           ` Wei Liu
2015-06-08 13:38             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 13:44               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-08 13:45                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-05 18:49   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-08 11:40     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 12:11       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-08 13:22         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 13:52           ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-08 14:20           ` George Dunlap
2015-06-08 15:01             ` Don Slutz
2015-06-08 15:37               ` George Dunlap
2015-06-08 16:06                 ` Don Slutz
2015-06-09 10:00                   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-09 10:17                     ` Wei Liu
2015-06-09 10:14                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-09 11:20                   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 16:44                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-09 12:45                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 13:35                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-06-08 14:53         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-08 15:20           ` George Dunlap
2015-06-08 15:42             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-06-08 14:14   ` George Dunlap

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