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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@parallels.com>,
	den@openvz.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] qcow2: add dirty-bitmaps feature
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:39:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624093903.GB7454@stefanha-thinkpad.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55899E23.6080707@redhat.com>

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 01:57:55PM -0400, John Snow wrote:
> On 06/15/2015 10:42 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 03:02:33PM -0400, John Snow wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 06/10/2015 10:30 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 06:21:20PM +0300, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I noticed a corner case, it's probably not a problem in practice:
> >>>
> >>> Since the dirty bitmap is stored with the help of a BlockDriverState
> >>> (and its bs->file), it's possible that writing the bitmap will cause
> >>> bits in the bitmap to be dirtied!
> >>>
> >>
> >> But since it's metadata and not stored within a disk sector, can this
> >> actually happen? Do you have an example of a scenario where this might
> >> come up?
> > 
> > The persistent dirty bitmap for bs->file is storeed in the qcow2 BDS.
> > This results in recursion.
> > 
> > This is a misconfiguration but I just want to understand what happens
> > when someone does this by mistake.
> > 
> > Stefan
> > 
> 
> I still don't follow you, actually.
> 
> The dirty bitmap only tracks changed virtual disk sectors, not actual
> file sectors, right? Writing a bitmap that describes foo.qcow2 to
> foo.qcow2 won't dirty bitmaps, it's an out-of-channel write as far as
> the bitmap is concerned.
> 
> Right? Am I fatally misunderstanding the situation?

There is no out-of-channel for bs->file.  The bs->file raw-posix image
file includes the bs qcow2 sectors that hold the dirty bitmap.

This is a corner case and I don't think any valid configuration would
hit it.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-08 15:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 RFC 0/8] block: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] spec: add qcow2-dirty-bitmaps specification Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:01   ` John Snow
2015-06-09 17:03   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10  8:19     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10  8:49       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10 13:00       ` Eric Blake
2015-06-11 10:16         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-10 13:24       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 10:19         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 13:03           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 16:21             ` John Snow
2015-06-12 10:28               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 15:19                 ` John Snow
2015-06-10 15:34   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-11 10:25     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 16:30       ` John Snow
2015-06-12  8:33         ` Kevin Wolf
2015-08-24 10:46     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 13:30   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 14:08     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-24 14:04   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 22:21   ` Eric Blake
2015-08-31 22:24     ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] qcow2: add dirty-bitmaps feature Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10 14:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 19:02     ` John Snow
2015-06-15 14:42       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-23 17:57         ` John Snow
2015-06-24  9:39           ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2015-08-14 17:14     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26  9:09       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 23:04   ` John Snow
2015-06-15 14:05     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-15 16:53       ` John Snow
2015-06-12 21:55   ` John Snow
2015-08-26 13:15     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26 14:14       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-27 12:43   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] block: store persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] block: add bdrv_load_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:01   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-10 22:33     ` John Snow
2015-06-11 10:41       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] qcow2: add qcow2_dirty_bitmap_delete_all Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] qcow2: add autoclear bit for dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 15:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-09 15:50   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-27  7:45     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 11:06       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-31 22:39       ` Eric Blake
2015-08-31 22:50         ` Eric Blake
2015-06-10 23:42   ` John Snow
2015-06-11  8:35     ` Kevin Wolf
2015-06-11 10:49     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 16:36       ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] qemu: command line option " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 20:57   ` John Snow
2015-06-12 21:49   ` John Snow
2015-06-08 15:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] iotests: test internal persistent dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-09 16:17   ` Eric Blake
2015-06-10 15:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 RFC 0/8] block: persistent dirty bitmaps Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 11:22   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-11 13:14     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-11 20:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12  9:58   ` Denis V. Lunev
2015-06-12 10:36     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-08-26  6:26       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-08-26  9:13         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-06-12 19:34 ` John Snow
2015-06-17 14:29   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-06-24  0:21     ` John Snow
2015-07-08 12:24       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2015-07-08 15:21         ` John Snow
2015-08-27 10:08       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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