From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E64A9BA1 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E2E8218 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB20420BA9 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 09:40:54 -0700 From: Greg KH To: Sasha Levin Message-ID: <20150715164054.GA13378@kroah.com> References: <55A1407E.5080800@oracle.com> <55A26C5B.8060007@oracle.com> <20150713105210.6e367f4b@noble> <55A33E48.2040202@oracle.com> <20150713142132.08fead4d@gandalf.local.home> <20150713185118.GK11162@sirena.org.uk> <20150715160347.GB12543@kroah.com> <55A68736.1010104@oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55A68736.1010104@oracle.com> Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:15:50PM -0400, Sasha Levin wrote: > On 07/15/2015 12:03 PM, Greg KH wrote: > >> > That would be the ideal setup for me though -- tagged or branched -rc > >> > candidates of stable releases that I'd be happy to put through the > >> > build/boot test at my end. > > kernelci now handles -rc stable releases, so would this just be a > > duplication of that work? > > I've actually suggested -rc stable cycles for the purpose of getting -rc > stable kernels into users hands by making it possible for distros to > ship these as proposed/test kernels by giving them enough time (right now > the review cycle is only a few days, making it impossible for distros > to ship them). Given that I do a new -stable release on the average of one a week, getting these into a distro as a testing kernel and getting feedback is going to be pretty much impossible. > As Guenter and Greg mentioned, there's already a fair amount of testing > being done on the queue branches, but there's really no testing being > done by end users before they receive a final kernel. I get feedback from Fedora, they always let me know when something goes really wrong, which is pretty unusual. So I don't know if "more testing" is going to really pay off. thanks, greg k-h