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From: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"yuyang.du@intel.com" <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
	"mturquette@baylibre.com" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	"sgurrappadi@nvidia.com" <sgurrappadi@nvidia.com>,
	"pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn" <pang.xunlei@zte.com.cn>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:22:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150911172246.GI27098@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150909111309.GD27098@e105550-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 12:13:10PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 11:43:05AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Sadly that makes the code worse; I get 14 mul instructions where
> > previously I had 11.
> > 
> > What happens is that GCC gets confused and cannot constant propagate the
> > new variables, so what used to be shifts now end up being actual
> > multiplications.
> > 
> > With this, I get back to 11. Can you see what happens on ARM where you
> > have both functions defined to non constants?
> 
> We repeated the experiment on arm and arm64 but still with functions
> defined to constant to compare with your results. The mul instruction
> count seems to be somewhat compiler version dependent, but consistently
> show no effect of the patch:
> 
> arm	before	after
> gcc4.9	12	12
> gcc4.8	10	10
> 
> arm64	before	after
> gcc4.9	11	11
> 
> I will get numbers with the arch-functions implemented as well and do
> hackbench runs to see what happens in terms of performance.

I have done some runs with the proposed fixes added:

1. PeterZ's util_sum shift fix (change util_sum).
2. Morten's scaling of weight instead of time (reduce bit loss).
3. PeterZ's unconditional calls to arch*() functions (compiler opt).

To be clear: 2 includes 1, and 3 includes 1 and 2.

Runs where done with the default (#define) implementation of the
arch-functions and with arch specific implementation for ARM.

I realized that just looking for 'mul' instructions in
update_blocked_averages() is probably not a fair comparison on ARM as it
turned out that it has quite a few multiply-accumulate instructions. So
I have included the total count including those too.


Test platforms:

ARM TC2 (A7x3 only)
perf stat --null --repeat 10 -- perf bench sched messaging -g 50 -l 200
#mul: grep -e mul (in update_blocked_averages())
#mul_all: grep -e mul -e mla -e mls -e mia (in update_blocked_averages())
gcc: 4.9.3

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz
perf stat --null --repeat 10 -- perf bench sched messaging -g 50 -l 15000
#mul: grep -e mul (in update_blocked_averages())
gcc: 4.9.2


Results:

perf numbers are average of three (x10) runs. Raw data is available
further down.

ARM TC2		#mul		#mul_all	perf bench
arch*()		default	arm	default	arm	default	arm

1 shift_fix	10	16	22	36	13.401	13.288
2 scaled_weight	12	14	30	32	13.282	13.238
3 unconditional	12	14	26	32	13.296	13.427

Intel E5-2690	#mul		#mul_all	perf bench
arch*()		default		default		default

1 shift_fix	13				14.786
2 scaled_weight	18				15.078
3 unconditional	14				15.195


Overall it appears that fewer 'mul' instructions doesn't necessarily
mean better perf bench score. For ARM, 2 seems the best choice overall.
While 1 is better for Intel. If we want to try avoid the bit loss by
scaling weight instead of time, 2 is best for both. However, all that
said, looking at the raw numbers there is a significant difference
between runs of perf --repeat, so we can't really draw any strong
conclusions. It all appears to be in the noise.

I suggest that I spin a v2 of this series and go with scaled_weight to
reduce bit loss. Any objections?

While at it, should I include Yuyang's patch redefining the SCALE/SHIFT
mess?


Raw numbers:

ARM TC2

shift_fix	default_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 10
#mul+mla+mls+mia 22
13.384416727 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.17% )
13.431014702 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.18% )
13.387434890 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.15% )

shift_fix	arm_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 16
#mul+mla+mls+mia 36
13.271044081 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.11% )
13.310189123 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.19% )
13.283594740 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.12% )

scaled_weight	default_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 12
#mul+mla+mls+mia 30
13.295649553 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.20% )
13.271634654 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.19% )
13.280081329 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.14% )

scaled_weight	arm_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 14
#mul+mla+mls+mia 32
13.230659223 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.15% )
13.222276527 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.15% )
13.260275081 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.21% )

unconditional	default_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 12
#mul+mla+mls+mia 26
13.274904460 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.13% )
13.307853511 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.15% )
13.304084844 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.22% )

unconditional	arm_arch
gcc4.9.3
#mul 14
#mul+mla+mls+mia 32
13.432878577 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.13% )
13.417950552 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.12% )
13.431682719 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.18% )


Intel

shift_fix	default_arch
gcc4.9.2
#mul 13
14.905815416 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.61% )
14.811113694 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.84% )
14.639739309 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.76% )

scaled_weight	default_arch
gcc4.9.2
#mul 18
15.113275474 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.64% )
15.056777680 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.44% )
15.064074416 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.71% )

unconditional	default_arch
gcc4.9.2
#mul 14
15.105152500 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.71% )
15.346405473 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.81% )
15.132933523 seconds time elapsed ( +-  0.82% )

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-11 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-14 16:23 [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Make load tracking frequency scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Convert arch_scale_cpu_capacity() from weak function to #define Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-02  9:31   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-02 12:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-03 19:58     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:26       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 13:25         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 13:21         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 14:45           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking cpu scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 23:04   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:04     ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking CPU scale-invariant tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Name utilization related data and functions consistently Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-04  9:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-11 16:35     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:04   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-03 23:51   ` Steve Muckle
2015-09-07 15:37     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 16:21       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 18:54         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 19:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:47             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08  7:22           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 14:06                 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:35                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 14:40                     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:31                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 15:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 22:23                     ` bsegall
2015-09-10 11:06                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-10 11:11                         ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-10 12:10                           ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11  0:50                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 17:23                         ` bsegall
2015-09-08 16:53                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-09  9:43                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09  9:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 11:13                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:22                         ` Morten Rasmussen [this message]
2015-09-17  9:51                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 10:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-21  1:16                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-21 17:30                               ` bsegall
2015-09-21 23:39                                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-22 17:18                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-22 23:22                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-23 16:54                                       ` bsegall
2015-09-24  0:22                                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-30 12:52                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  7:46                     ` Leo Yan
2015-09-11 10:02                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 14:11                         ` Leo Yan
2015-09-09 19:07                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 10:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 13:39               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 15:17                   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:50             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08 14:01               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:27                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-09 20:15               ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 10:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  0:28                   ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-11 10:31                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:05                       ` bsegall
2015-09-11 18:24                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-14 17:36                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 12:56                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-14 17:34                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 22:56                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15 17:11                               ` bsegall
2015-09-15 18:39                                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-16 17:06                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-17  2:31                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15  8:43                             ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-16 15:36                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 11:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-13 11:04       ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/fair: Initialize task load and utilization before placing task on rq Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:05   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-16 20:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-17 11:29   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-17 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-31  9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-02  9:51   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 14:44     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:06       ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Defer calling scaling functions tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann

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