From: "Kenneth Goldman" <kgoldman-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "tpmdd-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:03:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201512181503.tBIF3diB018165@d03av04.boulder.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C5A28EF7B98F574C85C70238C8E9ECC04E69407545-bIoXcEM4pvRAuK1PVaBULA@public.gmane.org>
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> From: "Wilck, Martin" <martin.wilck-RJz4owOZxyXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
> I am glad that this disucssion is gaining momentum. Whether to do
> resource arbitration in user or kernel space is an important question
> that should be discussed broadly.
I am too. Putting the resource manager in the kernel make the design so
much
cleaner than a resource manager in user space, another smaller one in the
kernel,
and communications hacks to make it hopefully work
> > > If the kernel takes over TSS's role of virtualization then we don't
> > > need TSS in user space any more. Multiple opens is a missing peice
> > to replace tss.
Just to be clear on TCG terminology, there is a "TSS" library per
application,
in user space, that handles crypto and the forming of the command byte
stream.
Whatever the RM solution, you still need that TSS. 2-3 solutions are
already
open sourced.
There is one (or a layered) "Resource Manager" that schedules application
access
to the TPM, does resource swapping, handle virtualization, and much more.
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2015-12-13 15:42 [PATCH v2 0/3] TPM 2.0 trusted key features for v4.5 Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] keys, trusted: fix: *do not* allow duplicate key options Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:46 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] keys, trusted: select hash algorithm for TPM2 chips Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-13 15:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] keys, trusted: seal with a TPM2 authorization policy Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-14 13:49 ` Mimi Zohar
2015-12-14 14:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 0:57 ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-12-18 10:06 ` Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 10:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 10:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 11:09 ` Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 11:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 14:10 ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-21 13:22 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2015-12-21 14:23 ` Stefan Berger
2015-12-22 21:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-12-23 15:02 ` Ken Goldman
2015-12-24 11:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-24 15:09 ` Ken Goldman
2016-01-02 20:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2016-01-03 13:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2016-01-04 16:22 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2016-01-04 18:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2016-01-04 20:06 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 9:43 ` Fuchs, Andreas
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2016-01-05 13:13 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-01-05 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-22 6:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2016-01-04 16:07 ` Fuchs, Andreas
2016-01-07 21:07 ` TPM2 resource manager vendor specific commands Ken Goldman
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2015-12-18 11:21 ` Question on Linux TSS architecture design (kernel vs. user space access) Wilck, Martin
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2015-12-18 11:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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2015-12-18 11:57 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2015-12-18 13:40 ` Stefan Berger
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2015-12-18 15:03 ` Kenneth Goldman [this message]
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