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[47.55.113.94]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n9sm4079809qke.8.2021.06.14.07.25.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by mlx with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1lsnX3-006eCb-Ee; Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:25:41 -0300 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:25:41 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Johannes Weiner Cc: Matthew Wilcox , helpdesk@kernel.org, Andrew Morton , Naoya Horiguchi , Michal Hocko , Vladimir Davydov , =?utf-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWU=?= Glisse , Mike Kravetz , Mike Rapoport , Will Deacon , "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , Nick Piggin , Peter Zijlstra , Dennis Zhou , Tejun Heo , Christoph Lameter , David Rientjes , Vlastimil Babka , Hugh Dickins , linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: Create mm@lists.linux.dev Message-ID: <20210614142541.GT1096940@ziepe.ca> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Server: rspam05 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: A924BC00CBC0 X-Stat-Signature: ttyx3runeo94mp33ow6ywsriz5h8jex8 Authentication-Results: imf22.hostedemail.com; dkim=pass header.d=ziepe.ca header.s=google header.b=SpbpKxKa; dmarc=none; spf=pass (imf22.hostedemail.com: domain of jgg@ziepe.ca designates 209.85.219.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jgg@ziepe.ca X-HE-Tag: 1623680734-55035 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 03:44:19PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 06:25:57PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > Address : mm@lists.linux.dev > > Description: Linux Memory Management > > Owners : bcrl@kvack.org, willy@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz > > Allow HTML : N > > Archives : Y > > > > Reasons for the list and additional info: > > kvack.org has been regrettably unreliable recently, and it makes sense > > to have a full-time sysadmin who can fix issues without being forced to > > drive for five hours to the colo. > > Agreed. > > It was eating my email too in the past, and I spent a lot of time > making speculative changes to my setup to get it to work. We may as > well take advantage of the infrastructure used by most every other > subsystem already, and avoid this pain for both users and owners. > > Thanks for pushing for this +1 here too. linux-mm emails are often in my spam folder because it mangles DKIM. Other lists don't have this problem Jason