From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F3DC2B9F4 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 14:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E15610A1 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 14:57:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233001AbhFQO7y (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:59:54 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:42586 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233058AbhFQO7l (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:59:41 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-xf35.google.com (mail-qv1-xf35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f35]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A78BDC06175F for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf35.google.com with SMTP id x6so1803676qvx.4 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=/IqBr3NA/lWdfJ6FoEna0xJ2q9DkTIf8JPGTcmVk06A=; b=Ji6E3/koI4UgDu5JD/goUkbeoFlIpE8vozbFo04Le+8Lit3mzP5dpThbuGsc0koUIu 405SjfRw1iCoWbpmAK63rMxZ5zDm7x8Q35BBSBCarIJOock/KD1ASq2+6zj3MoKwFURH NKX7nH0Ow+6Pdd6Yj+vimnU2OpygcvM02pgO0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=/IqBr3NA/lWdfJ6FoEna0xJ2q9DkTIf8JPGTcmVk06A=; b=JFGC3nQ+qLv8tOgskWMiUO9X7fCEzvUoB7Oar3fdy9FJTmvZE8DyhvAzBaOd72TFIs ZBp48iEtRCcZBFsaH+18DB9IBKamPSgUEX2VofWgJsiWJljdQCK8qmLJkr9OTFOnNW44 zgZJQEyM5LIcF4+U8z7RyvSHoO36YLmA2uM1X8x56t3rnlz7mTYv1QjRAU8BEEC8sE6Y E3rWfq0qbD8m4qtyG3bzO3oF1pZgOWIuIkxV4DJ76UKLaDvYBGvz18dt+lFspZ7t2ALm kpL7LDcjw9DGZbe7Xd5+rtHMDXfgnIVLjkrgxzxVL6ufHk2Nc7O2qyHUezQ5RVhuJtOC Mtyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5308fHPX8AkYct62tCHLhRa+b+XE2LA6NwAzdej+DPeQSs37m84/ Y2woK64q3i4/P+ATP+VYu4sxKA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzdP0KE9uJSGjintjvnr78mJKyOgP7ldctfli0gopZLBPCkw/1j5wNMAu3ZugXgr0rUraz7lQ== X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5f0e:: with SMTP id fo14mr193406qvb.42.1623941850789; Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nitro.local ([89.36.78.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d124sm934448qkf.54.2021.06.17.07.57.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 10:57:28 -0400 From: Konstantin Ryabitsev To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Dmitry Vyukov , Jiri Kosina , users@linux.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: RFC: Github PR bot questions Message-ID: <20210617145728.nahkvtxapozccm6c@nitro.local> References: <20210616171813.bwvu6mtl4ltotf7p@nitro.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:09:34AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > You don't want to accept these contributions even if you won't be able > > to tell the difference on your end? But why? This looks really > > orthogonal to a person's expertise and proficiency in software > > development. Whether that's inability to deal with email, or no desire > > to spend time on that, or just personal preferences. > > Because I don't waste my time on the kind of crap that comes from > github. If you build a separate webinterface that allows anyone to send > a proper series from a git tree that is all fine. But github is toxic. Won't this just end up reimplementing a lot of stuff that we already get "for free" from Github and other forges? Yes, I know Github is proprietary, but so are many SMTP gateways used to send the patch series. I don't see how what the GH bot would do is different from: - a developer uses some proprietary IDE to develop the code - they send patches via their Exchange infrastructure As long as we don't make proprietary or cloud tools any kind of dependency, then we're not painting ourselves into any corners. As I mentioned earlier, I'm also working on a version of the same bot that would work with pull requests generated with "git-request-pull" and convert them into patch series for review -- this would be a suitable alternative for people who aren't interested in using Github. -K