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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, johannes.schindelin@gmx.de,
	Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] builtin/diagnose.c: create 'git diagnose' builtin
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:06:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220811.865yizqbnt.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41f85d57-596a-5e42-756c-93fe0f45185f@github.com>


On Fri, Aug 05 2022, Derrick Stolee wrote:

> On 8/4/2022 2:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 04 2022, Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>
>>>
>>> Create a 'git diagnose' builtin to generate a standalone zip archive of
>>> repository diagnostics.
>> 
>> It's good to have this as a built-in separate from "git bugreport",
>> but...
>> 
>>> +git-diagnose - Generate a zip archive of diagnostic information
>> 
>> ...I'd really prefer for this not to squat on such a common name we
>> might regret having reserved later for such very specific
>> functionality. I'd think e.g. these would be better:
>> 
>> 	git mk-diagnostics-zip
>> 
>> Or maybe:
>> 
>> 	git archive-interesting-for-report
>
> These are not realistic replacements.

Maybe:

	git diagnose create-zip

?

>> If I had to guess what a "git diagnose" did, I'd probably think:
>> 
>>  * It analyzes your config, and suggests redundancies/alternatives
>>  * It does some perf tests / heuritics, and e.g. suggests you turn on
>>    the commit-graph writing.
>
> These sound like great options to add in the future, such as:
>
>    --perf-test: Run performance tests on your repository using different
>    Git config options and recommend certain settings.
>
> (This --perf-test option would be a great way to get wider adoption
> of parallel checkout, since its optimal settings are so machine
> dependent.)

...

> The thing is, even if we did these other things, it would result in
> some kind of document that summarizes the repository shape and features.
> That kind of data is exactly what this version of 'git diagnose' does.

I think a command like "git diagnose" that had options to do other
unrelated stuff, but by default created a zip archive when given no
options would be rather confusing.

Yes, it makes sense to emit some human-readable summary, but to zip it
up as well? That's something we just need for the "git bugreport"
case...

> For now, it leaves the human reader responsible for making decisions
> based on those documents, but they have been incredibly helpful when we
> are _diagnosing_ issues users are having with their repositories.

This is orthagonal to what I'm pointing out. You're basically saying the
user can just read the documentation to find out what this built-in
does.

That's true, what I'm pointing out is that it's unfortunate that such
highly specific functionality is squatting on such a short & generic
name, but just e.g. adding a "create-zip" sub-command would address
that.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-11 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-01 21:14 [PATCH 0/7] Generalize 'scalar diagnose' into 'git bugreport --diagnose' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 1/7] scalar: use "$GIT_UNZIP" in 'scalar diagnose' test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 21:46   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] builtin/bugreport.c: create '--diagnose' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 22:16   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02 15:40     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-02  2:17   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] builtin/bugreport.c: avoid size_t overflow Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 22:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02 16:26     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-02 20:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02  2:03   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-02 16:26     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-03 12:25       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] builtin/bugreport.c: add directory to archiver more gently Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 22:22   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02 15:43     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] builtin/bugreport.c: add '--no-report' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 22:31   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02 19:46     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] scalar: use 'git bugreport --diagnose' in 'scalar diagnose' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 21:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] scalar: update technical doc roadmap Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-01 21:34 ` [PATCH 0/7] Generalize 'scalar diagnose' into 'git bugreport --diagnose' Junio C Hamano
2022-08-02  2:49 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-02 19:48   ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-03 12:34     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  1:45 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Generalize 'scalar diagnose' into 'git diagnose' and " Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] scalar-diagnose: use "$GIT_UNZIP" in test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] scalar-diagnose: avoid 32-bit overflow of size_t Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] scalar-diagnose: add directory to archiver more gently Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  6:19     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04 17:12       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 20:12         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04 21:09           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] scalar-diagnose: move 'get_disk_info()' to 'compat/' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] scalar-diagnose: move functionality to common location Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  6:24     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] builtin/diagnose.c: create 'git diagnose' builtin Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  6:27     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 19:38       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-11 11:06         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-08-05 19:11     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] builtin/diagnose.c: gate certain data behind '--all' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  6:39     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] builtin/bugreport.c: create '--diagnose' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 19:35     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-09 23:53       ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-10 12:52         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-10 16:13           ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-10 16:47             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] scalar-diagnose: use 'git diagnose --all' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  6:54     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-09 16:54       ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-04  1:45   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] scalar: update technical doc roadmap Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04 17:22   ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Generalize 'scalar diagnose' into 'git diagnose' and 'git bugreport --diagnose' Junio C Hamano
2022-08-09 16:17     ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-09 16:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-10 23:34   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] " Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] scalar-diagnose: use "$GIT_UNZIP" in test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] scalar-diagnose: avoid 32-bit overflow of size_t Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] scalar-diagnose: add directory to archiver more gently Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] scalar-diagnose: move 'get_disk_info()' to 'compat/' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] scalar-diagnose: move functionality to common location Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] diagnose.c: add option to configure archive contents Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-11  0:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-12 17:00         ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-11 10:51       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-11 15:43         ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] builtin/diagnose.c: create 'git diagnose' builtin Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] builtin/diagnose.c: add '--mode' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] builtin/bugreport.c: create '--diagnose' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-11 10:53       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-11 15:40         ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-11 20:30           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] scalar-diagnose: use 'git diagnose --mode=all' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-10 23:34     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] scalar: update technical doc roadmap Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10     ` [PATCH v4 00/11] Generalize 'scalar diagnose' into 'git diagnose' and 'git bugreport --diagnose' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 01/11] scalar-diagnose: use "$GIT_UNZIP" in test Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 02/11] scalar-diagnose: avoid 32-bit overflow of size_t Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 03/11] scalar-diagnose: add directory to archiver more gently Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 04/11] scalar-diagnose: move 'get_disk_info()' to 'compat/' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 05/11] scalar-diagnose: move functionality to common location Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-12 21:00           ` Victoria Dye
2022-08-12 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 06/11] diagnose.c: add option to configure archive contents Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:31         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 07/11] builtin/diagnose.c: create 'git diagnose' builtin Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-18 18:43         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-18 19:12           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 08/11] builtin/diagnose.c: add '--mode' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 09/11] builtin/bugreport.c: create '--diagnose' option Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 10/11] scalar-diagnose: use 'git diagnose --mode=all' Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget
2022-08-12 20:10       ` [PATCH v4 11/11] scalar: update technical doc roadmap Victoria Dye via GitGitGadget

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