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From: John Whitney <jjw@emsoftware.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Phil Hord <phil.hord@gmail.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Bug report
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 21:23:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5070E7BF.8040102@emsoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121006133146.GD11712@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On 10/6/12 8:31 AM, Jeff King wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 11:10:40AM -0500, John Whitney wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your response. I do see the dilemma, but having
>> no possible "unmodified" state is extremely inconvenient and,
>> as shown, breaks basic git operations.
> But you have asked for an impossible state. You have said "this file
> cannot have CR when you check it in, because we erase them". And yet the
> version of the file in HEAD has CRs in it. So it must appear modified
> with respect to HEAD.  And the solution is to make a commit with the
> normalized content.
I guess I'd really like to see git ignore all line endings of text files 
in the repository. Text files would then never be marked as "modified" 
for this reason and there would be no need to "fix" the line endings. I 
think that should be the default, but just having the option would be nice.

> You said in your test script:
>
>    # Committing test.txt or clearing .gitattributes does clear
>    # the "modified" status, but those options are undesirable
>
> Why is the commit undesirable? You have decided that CRs will no longer
> be tolerated in your repository (by setting .gitattributes). Now you
> need to record that change in history with a commit that strips out the
> CRs.
In some cases it's undesirable. In my example, all I want to do is merge 
in the change that deletes the file, so I don't want to have to add that 
extra commit when I'm just going to delete the file anyway. It's also 
very inconvenient to have to deal with this issue when you're in the 
middle of a complex rebase operation.

>> I guess my thought is that if git doesn't allow CRs to be checked
>> in, then it should strip the CRs when checking the file out, and
>> consider that form (or both forms) as "unmodified". It just
>> doesn't make sense to me that files are considered modified
>> immediately after checkout.
> It is not about having CRs in the working tree file. Those are now
> considered uninteresting and stripped by git when comparing to the HEAD.
> The problem is that what's in your _repository_ has CRs.
Yes, but does that really have to be an issue? Is there any technical or 
practical reason you can think of that the repository shouldn't ignore 
those CRs?

> I wonder if this is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the CRLF
> handling in git works. It is not "magically make me not care about line
> endings anymore". It is "the canonical version in the repo is LF-only.
> Strip anything coming into the repository to match that, and
> (optionally) add CR to anything going out to the filesystem for my
> convenience". But you need a flag day to update the in-repository
> versions to the new scheme.
>
> -Peff
You're right, we can't magically avoid all the line ending issues that 
people will run into. In this case, though, I think git can sidestep a 
fairly obnoxious problem. My example was simple, but when you've got 
multiple branches that need to be rebased/merged, it can get pretty 
hairy. The repository will never be truly "clean" unless you rewrite the 
whole thing (using filter-branch, for instance).

Maybe my above suggestion is more of a feature request than a bug, but 
there is the obvious bug that after changing .gitattributes, git still 
doesn't notice that files are "modified" until you modify them again in 
some way (touch works). I only noticed the CRs in our own repository 
after I tried to rebase a branch and got strange errors. To make git 
notice all the files, I had to "find . -type f -exec touch {} \;".

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-07  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-04  4:35 Bug report John Whitney
2012-10-04 14:19 ` Phil Hord
2012-10-04 16:10   ` John Whitney
2012-10-06 13:31     ` Jeff King
2012-10-07  2:23       ` John Whitney [this message]
2012-10-07 23:52         ` Jeff King
2012-10-09 17:17           ` John Whitney
2012-10-09 19:00             ` John Whitney
2012-10-04 15:21 ` Andrew Wong
2012-10-04 16:16   ` John Whitney
2012-10-04 16:28     ` John Whitney
2012-10-04 17:01     ` Andrew Wong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-08-28 12:51 Dexter Pontañeles
2023-06-27 16:02 Bug Report Tiago d'Almeida
2022-12-28  2:43 Bug report Jensen Bean
2022-12-28  5:02 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-12-25 17:26 bug report Eyal Post
2022-12-25 18:12 ` Eric Sunshine
2022-12-08  5:29 Bug Report Jensen Bean
2022-12-08  8:31 ` Bagas Sanjaya
     [not found]   ` <CANqKdC-gHgQHn5DMoOREY52y7PpRLMpNAjX3qeA5iy9z_GXdzw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-12-26  2:15     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-11-19 20:20 Jensen Bean
2022-10-03 15:28 Bug report Alastair Douglas
2022-10-03 16:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-10-04 10:15   ` Alastair Douglas
2022-10-05  5:46     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-04-20 19:45 Bug Report Daniel Habenicht
2022-04-20 21:30 ` brian m. carlson
2022-04-20 22:34   ` rsbecker
2022-04-21 13:20     ` Daniel Habenicht
2022-04-21 14:39       ` Torsten Bögershausen
     [not found]         ` <AS1P190MB175022A7F1264807ECA464A8ECF49@AS1P190MB1750.EURP190.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
2022-04-21 17:52           ` Torsten Bögershausen
2021-12-01 22:31 Josh Rampersad
2021-11-12  4:22 bug report Theodore Li
2021-11-12  4:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-12  6:59   ` Theodore Li
2021-11-12 14:05     ` Paul Smith
2020-03-27 11:53 Bug Report James Yeoman
2020-03-27 12:59 ` Pratyush Yadav
2020-03-21  9:38 bug report aaa
2020-03-22  8:13 ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found] <CA+2sEepTyrK-iH+VBHVF1i9DuYVzDkTNxuM0-yoWbkC9N4f8HA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-15 15:18 ` Nick Steinhauser
2018-09-08  9:50 Bug report 李 武刚
2018-09-19 20:46 ` Nicolas Iooss
2018-09-06 20:23 Jianliang Wu
2018-09-07  9:43 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2017-08-30 21:25 Aleksandar Pavic
2017-08-31  6:36 ` Kevin Daudt
2017-08-31 14:19   ` Dov Grobgeld
2017-08-31 14:55     ` Aleksandar Pavic
2017-08-31 16:23   ` Stephan Beyer
2017-09-02  8:49 ` Jeff King
2016-12-22 20:07 Ing. Ricardo Brisighelli
2016-12-23 13:15 ` Wei Liu
2016-05-13  5:04 bug report 李本超
2016-05-13  5:23 ` Pranit Bauva
2016-05-13  5:58   ` 李本超
2016-05-13  6:37     ` Pranit Bauva
2016-05-13  6:57       ` 李本超
2016-05-13  7:10         ` Pranit Bauva
2016-05-13  7:41           ` 李本超
2016-05-13  8:10             ` Jeff King
2016-05-13 12:05               ` 李本超
2016-04-03  0:25 Bug Report Benjamin Sandeen
2016-04-03  2:20 ` Eric N. Vander Weele
2016-04-03  2:22 ` Jacob Keller
2015-05-11 16:57 Alex Newman
2015-05-11 17:14 ` David Ahern
2015-05-11 17:56   ` Alex Newman
2015-05-11 21:42     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-01-27 14:43 bug report Albert Akhriev
2015-01-27 14:50 ` Jeff King
2014-08-05  5:08 Zhu, Zhengyun
2014-08-05 16:05 ` Vasily Tarasov
2013-05-24 22:32 Bug Report Rajiv Shah
2013-05-28 11:07 ` Bryn M. Reeves
     [not found] <CAC34_pT9zwZDnUjo1bTUZabD02M48=_+77-mNCA5adWTgxuYgg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-08  5:20 ` Kirk Fraser
2013-03-04  5:44 Roberto CORRADO
2012-10-05 10:13 Bug report Муковников Михаил
2012-10-05 10:32 ` Konstantin Khomoutov
2012-10-05 10:47   ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2012-10-05 11:03     ` Муковников Михаил
2012-10-05 10:52   ` Муковников Михаил
2012-09-01 23:24 bug report Manoel Pedro
2012-08-20 22:31 Bug report mr.shroom
2012-08-20 22:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2012-08-20 23:16   ` Alan Cox
2012-08-21  9:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-08-01 10:46 artem rus
2011-10-28 15:55 Hendrik Knackstedt
2011-07-19 17:34 Bug Report Charles Opondo
2011-07-20 15:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2011-04-05  4:48 bug report Larry D'Anna
2011-04-05  6:17 ` Helmut Hullen
     [not found] <mailman.1.1244602801.14549.users@nilfs.org>
     [not found] ` <mailman.1.1244602801.14549.users-JrjvKiOkagjYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-11 17:51   ` Bug Report Dipl.-Ing. Michael Niederle
2009-06-12  6:44     ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-04-03 23:44 bug report Jeremy
2008-11-03 18:30 Todor Gyumyushev
2008-09-25 14:08 Todor Gyumyushev
2008-09-24  9:41 Todor Gyumyushev
2008-09-24 16:38 ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2008-09-24 17:55   ` Todor Gyumyushev
2008-09-24 18:25     ` Simon Holm Thøgersen
2008-09-29  1:36       ` Tejun Heo
2008-09-29  8:30         ` Todor Gyumyushev
2008-09-30 11:47           ` Tejun Heo
2008-07-26 15:17 Bug report Jachin Spencer
2008-07-27  1:11 ` Pavel Roskin
2008-06-06 19:59 bug report Zsiros Attila
2008-06-07  1:44 ` Oliver Pinter
2008-06-07  1:45   ` Oliver Pinter
2008-06-07  5:56   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-07  8:47     ` Ilpo Järvinen
2008-06-07 12:50       ` Oliver Pinter
2008-06-07 15:09         ` Phil Oester
2008-06-07 18:53           ` Oliver Pinter
2008-06-08 11:56             ` Zsiros Attila
2008-06-09 17:04               ` Oliver Pinter
2007-09-06 17:05 Bug Report Mark Goodall
2007-09-07  0:23 ` Barry Naujok
2007-09-18  2:27 ` Barry Naujok
2006-07-09  2:04 BUG report Antonio Mignolli
2006-07-12 10:56 ` Markus Rechberger
2005-10-21  8:42 bug report Ian Pratt
2005-10-21 11:28 ` David F Barrera
2005-10-20 16:47 Stephan Böni
2005-10-20 12:47 Stephan Böni
2005-10-20 15:28 ` David F Barrera
2005-05-26  1:09 Jerry DeLisle
2005-05-26  2:12 ` Jerry DeLisle
2005-04-11 14:07 Bug report studdugie
2005-04-11 15:30 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-04-12 13:57   ` studdugie
2005-04-13 12:49     ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-04-14  4:45       ` David Masover
2005-04-14  9:15         ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-12-25 13:00 Ioannis Fikouras
2004-11-14 12:38 Bug Report Alan Erola
2004-11-29 18:31 ` bug report Muhtar Mahsut
2004-11-30  0:39 ` Greg KH
2004-12-18 11:11 ` Brian Kreulen
2004-12-18 12:06 ` Brian Kreulen
2005-08-21 20:06 ` John Saylor
2005-08-21 20:45 ` Kay Sievers
2006-01-11 11:08 ` Michael Mey
2006-01-11 11:17 ` Kay Sievers
2004-03-03 10:47 Bug report Manivannan Shanmugam
2004-02-21  2:48 Grahame M. Kelly
2004-02-24  9:22 ` Vitaly Fertman
2004-01-13 19:09 BUG REPORT Luca T.
2004-01-13 21:18 ` David D. Huff Jr.
2004-01-14 10:17 ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-11-23  2:09 bug report Stephan Reichel
2003-11-23 12:19 ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-11-25  0:44   ` Stephan Reichel
2003-11-25  0:54     ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2003-11-25 10:54     ` Vitaly Fertman
2003-11-23 12:20 ` Redeeman
2003-08-02 18:10 Russell Whitaker
     [not found] ` <3F424BB1.8050400@metavize.com>
2003-08-19 23:44   ` Russell Whitaker
2003-04-28 20:40 robs
2003-04-29  5:49 ` Oleg Drokin
2003-04-29  8:20   ` robs
2003-04-29  8:43     ` Oleg Drokin
2003-04-29  8:41   ` robs
2003-04-29  8:45     ` Oleg Drokin
2002-12-02 19:40 Howard Shane
2002-10-04 15:01 Sander Kamphuis
2002-10-04 15:32 ` Paulo Andre'
2002-10-04 15:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-12  5:12 Bug Report service
2002-04-24  9:15 bug report Pan,Gaoyong
2002-03-04 16:04 Vitaly Fertman
2001-11-27 15:04 Bug (?) report Matteo Sasso
2001-11-27 15:51 ` Tommy Reynolds
2001-11-10 19:01 Bug Report Logoth Dragon
2001-11-10 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2001-08-02  9:38 Bug report Daniel Glozman
2001-03-22 20:58 Craig Cummings
2001-03-22 21:43 ` Tim Walberg
2001-02-01 22:09 Anders S. Buch
2001-02-03  1:44 ` Jens Axboe
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