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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: 5.13-rt1 + KVM = WARNING: at fs/eventfd.c:74 eventfd_signal()
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 17:38:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <724e7951-59c8-8b2b-37b8-6b0bf696ab04@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210718124219.1521-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On 18/07/21 14:42, Hillf Danton wrote:
>> It's caused by the missing wakeup, i.e. eventfd_signal not really
>> signaling anything.
> 
> Can you please point me to the waiters in the mainline?

It's irqfd_wakeup.

> There are two cases of write_seqcount_begin in x/virt/kvm/eventfd.c, and
> in kvm_irqfd_deassign() it is surrounded by spin_lock_irq(&kvm->irqfds.lock)
> that also protects irqfd_update().
> 
> What isnt clear is if the risk is zero that either case can be preempted by
> seqcount reader. That risk may end up with the livelock described in
> x/Documentation/locking/seqlock.rst.

Since the introduction of seqcount_spinlock_t, the writers automatically 
disable preemption.  This is definitely the right thing in this case 
where the seqcount writers are small enough, and the readers are hot 
enough, that using a local lock would be too heavyweight.

Without that, the livelock would be possible, though very unlikely.  In 
practice seqcount updates should only happen while the producer is 
quiescent; and also the seqcount readers and writers will often be 
pinned to separate CPUs.

Paolo

> +A sequence counter write side critical section must never be preempted
> +or interrupted by read side sections. Otherwise the reader will spin for
> +the entire scheduler tick due to the odd sequence count value and the
> +interrupted writer. If that reader belongs to a real-time scheduling
> +class, it can spin forever and the kernel will livelock.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-19 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-14  8:01 5.13-rt1 + KVM = WARNING: at fs/eventfd.c:74 eventfd_signal() Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-07-14  8:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-14  9:23   ` Jason Wang
2021-07-14 10:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-14 10:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-14 10:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-14 12:20       ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-07-15  4:14       ` Jason Wang
2021-07-15  5:58         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-15  6:45           ` Jason Wang
2021-07-15  8:22       ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-07-15  8:44         ` He Zhe
2021-07-15  9:51           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-15 10:10             ` He Zhe
2021-07-15 11:05               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-16  2:26                 ` Jason Wang
2021-07-16  2:43                   ` He Zhe
2021-07-16  2:46                     ` Jason Wang
2021-07-15  9:46         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-15 12:34           ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
     [not found]       ` <20210715102249.2205-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-07-15 12:31         ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
     [not found]         ` <20210716020611.2288-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-07-16  6:54           ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]           ` <20210716075539.2376-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-07-16  7:59             ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]             ` <20210716093725.2438-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-07-16 11:55               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-18 12:42                 ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-19 15:38                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-07-21  7:04                     ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-21  7:25                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-21 10:11                         ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-21 10:59                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-22  5:58                             ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-23  2:23                             ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-23  7:59                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-23  9:48                                 ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-23 10:56                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-24  4:33                                     ` Hillf Danton
2021-07-26 11:03                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-28  8:06       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-28 10:21         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-07-28 19:07           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-29 11:01             ` [PATCH] eventfd: Make signal recursion protection a task bit Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-29 14:32               ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-07-29 19:23               ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2021-08-26  7:03               ` Jason Wang
2021-08-27 23:41               ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner

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