From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (bedivere.hansenpartnership.com [96.44.175.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A07C770 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 15:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BB71280A3B; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:28:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=hansenpartnership.com; s=20151216; t=1619105283; bh=QhpPv/fAlstpyAkmQA60jG7XbOcwhVdRULreTcZMzPM=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=m+A2bSWIlm1XYnLLWnBh10yA3B5upqn75/fdtM4tmeguEQ7EzGt0GnjWVUt4uj0H8 GJKwLcjKL89B30kvnxDiwcZQzNRycaIxxy768/B/noN4ZGX0GTP64Zlg6+N3pILEyE wXouv3yMNl+6brjbQu+1D7Bf2nOZ2J5negDrpeoE= Received: from bedivere.hansenpartnership.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bedivere.hansenpartnership.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9KOM4FMhqUtN; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jarvis.int.hansenpartnership.com (unknown [IPv6:2601:600:8280:66d1::527]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bedivere.hansenpartnership.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54C781280A36; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=hansenpartnership.com; s=20151216; t=1619105282; bh=QhpPv/fAlstpyAkmQA60jG7XbOcwhVdRULreTcZMzPM=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=sXlUyQsf4DqAJ1nUU+y05iyV8OF/vluYAaJy6F2yd3AsSr85mKWO61y49cXwEA/8Y 5zMsxA93k7Z8BDBGir/cfIefy2IN4a8UGaoXw1W+USBIHw+7v2C+0Pn7KJFy4BgW/Y b3zQGIGveysQbhA2hC2Q0VUxKhxbALRR6Tawf128= Message-ID: <99289ff4cf7b1e59f82c330728c80dc7e63319a7.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Rethinking the acceptance policy for "trivial" patches From: James Bottomley To: "Martin K. Petersen" , Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: ksummit@lists.linux.dev Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:28:00 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <20210422123559.1dc647fb@coco.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.4 X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 08:32 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > Another metric that may be worth capturing is how many Fixes: tags > refer to patches authored by this submitter. Or perhaps invert it: no bug fix without a Fixes: tag. Some of the human handlers of robot based finders, like Dan's smatch, do go back and figure out where the bug came from, but if we encourage the rule that if you're fixing a bug you must identify the origin and explain the bug it may help weed out some bogus fixes. There seem to be two strands here: how to gain trust in the submitter and a process which makes it easy to identify for someone familiar with the subsystem to identify the actual bug, but I think improving our bug process would yield immediate benefits. Trust is a more difficult thing to quantify. James