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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"musl@lists.openwall.com" <musl@lists.openwall.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [musl] Re: [RFC PATCH] x86/vdso/32: Add AT_SYSINFO cancellation helpers
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 13:26:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxHyKwu4RnP2AU5YDtzmNGvQZvywYZg1iJWQsJt4VvJqA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXXx36buZyOhnYu-N3boRrCdK0a8p8yPHD+te1k3zYY=Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
> How safe would this be in a multithreaded process?  For example, if
> open() gets canceled in the "killable" sense, is it guaranteed that no
> file descriptor will be allocated?

Not all system calls can be killed, we only do the usual cases. A
system call has to have the proper EINTR logic in place, so it's not
like we kill system calls at any random point.

> Let me try to summarize my understanding of the semantics.
>
> Thread A sends thread B a signal.  Thread B wants to ignore the signal
> and defer handling unless it's either in a particular syscall and
> returns -EINTR or unless the thread is about to do the syscall.

Note that for the kernel, we don't actually have to use a signal for
this at all. Our existing "cancel system calls" code only works for
fatal signals, but that's just a trivial implementation issue.

We could add a system call that just sets a cancel flag in another
thread, and we'd just use that cancel flag to say "abort the currently
executing system call with EINTR" - in all the same places we
currently dot hat "fatal_signal_pending()" thing.

You'd still have to have all the user-space logic to do the
cancellation cleanup etc. But now you could actually cancel a write()
system call in the *middle*, which is currently just not an option.

                Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-09 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09  1:24 [RFC PATCH] x86/vdso/32: Add AT_SYSINFO cancellation helpers Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09  8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 11:34   ` [musl] " Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-09 11:40     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-09 19:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-09 20:57       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09 21:26         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2016-03-10 10:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-10  3:34       ` Rich Felker
2016-03-10 11:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-10 16:41           ` Rich Felker
2016-03-10 18:03             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-10 23:28               ` Rich Felker
2016-03-11  0:18                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-11  0:48                   ` Rich Felker
2016-03-11  1:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11  1:39                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-11  1:49                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-11  1:55                       ` Rich Felker
2016-03-11  9:33                 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-11 11:39                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2016-03-11 19:27                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 19:30                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 19:39                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 19:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-12 17:05                             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-12 18:10                               ` Rich Felker
2016-03-12 17:00                       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-12 18:05                         ` Rich Felker
2016-03-12 18:48                           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-12 19:08                             ` Rich Felker
2016-03-12 17:08                     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-09 17:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09 21:19   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-12 18:13     ` Andy Lutomirski

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