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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	postmaster@kernel.org,  clang-built-linux <llvm@lists.linux.dev>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [sysadmin] Fwd: Bouncing messages from llvm@lists.linux.dev
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 11:34:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFP8O3JtxmwWSxTen-G3d8sZ68uCCk+_EEk75pJ2S+-RmAEssw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdmPjCWo0kjfUEamH+bBbeBK09nDcZzyKSr1ze+sVbUvcA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:30 AM Nick Desaulniers
<ndesaulniers@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:19 AM Konstantin Ryabitsev
> <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:54:34AM -0700, 'Nick Desaulniers' via Systems Administrators wrote:
> > > Hi Post Master,
> > > Any idea what's up with the below message?
> > >
> > > To Fangrui, it sounded like his patch wasn't delivered to our list but
> > > the message Fangrui sent was indeed posted.
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/20220710071117.446112-1-maskray@google.com/
> > >
> > > Can the error be reworded possibly to elucidate what's going on?
> >
> > This happens in a rare case when we mistakenly allow a spam message through,
> > which is this one:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/0.0.3.735.1D894A7973BDB9A.0@absceraw.gazzettait.com/
> >
> > when we tried to deliver this message to maskray@google.com, Google's spam
> > filters rejected it, so we got back a bounce. When this happens, mlmmj follows
> > up with a probe email to make sure the address is still valid, which is the
> > message you received.
> >
> > This behaviour is indeed a bit confusing, but it's not about the mail you sent
> > out, just the spam your MX refused to receive.
>
> Cool, thanks for the explanation.

Thanks, too. The bounce from the spam happened to be delivered to my
mailbox few hours after I posted the patch, so I got confused :)

> Any chance the error message could say something like:
>
> The message at
> https://lore.kernel.org/llvm/0.0.3.735.1D894A7973BDB9A.0@absceraw.gazzettait.com/
> could not be delivered to you; it may be spam but you might want to verify.

The wording looks great!

> Since I suspect the message id will be in the lore URL?
>
> >
> > HTH,
> > Konstantin
> >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
> > > Date: Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:36 AM
> > > Subject: Fwd: Bouncing messages from llvm@lists.linux.dev
> > > To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: <llvm+owner@lists.linux.dev>
> > > Date: Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 3:30 PM
> > > Subject: Bouncing messages from llvm@lists.linux.dev
> > > To: <maskray@google.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > > This is the mlmmj program managing the <llvm@lists.linux.dev> mailing list.
> > >
> > > Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
> > > message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your
> > > information.
> > >
> > > Here is the list of the bounced messages:
> > > - 11406
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > 宋方睿
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > ~Nick Desaulniers
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> ~Nick Desaulniers
>


-- 
宋方睿

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-11 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1657492202-18435-mlmmj-51d729a7@lists.linux.dev>
     [not found] ` <CAFP8O3+Lw0wKfWY-VA+tuAnVcjyN17E=yk6-VU5WcWG1xdH+UA@mail.gmail.com>
2022-07-11 17:54   ` Fwd: Bouncing messages from llvm@lists.linux.dev Nick Desaulniers
2022-07-11 18:19     ` [sysadmin] " Konstantin Ryabitsev
2022-07-11 18:30       ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-07-11 18:34         ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2022-07-11 19:27         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2022-07-11 19:30           ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-07-11 19:31             ` Fangrui Song

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