From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FE67B5A for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A85071A1 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 01:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagw2 with SMTP id w2so34537930lag.3 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:05:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150716092410.22d0af07@noble> References: <55A1407E.5080800@oracle.com> <55A26C5B.8060007@oracle.com> <20150713105210.6e367f4b@noble> <55A33E48.2040202@oracle.com> <20150713142132.08fead4d@gandalf.local.home> <55A45AD8.5010400@oracle.com> <20150713210226.519dedfd@gandalf.local.home> <20150714104623.GQ11162@sirena.org.uk> <55A51548.4040502@oracle.com> <20150714152515.GX11162@sirena.org.uk> <55A52B8B.5060606@oracle.com> <20150714113829.4b618d9a@gandalf.local.home> <55A53074.7040109@oracle.com> <20150714120225.65e489cc@gandalf.local.home> <55A5635D.1020600@oracle.com> <20150715114946.481f154d@noble> <55A5C0EE.3060803@oracle.com> <20150715122802.56ca2100@noble> <1436955234.31121.25.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20150716092410.22d0af07@noble> From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:05:11 -0700 Message-ID: To: NeilBrown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: James Bottomley , Sasha Levin , Linus Torvalds , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:24 PM, NeilBrown wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2015 13:13:54 +0300 James Bottomley > >> >> I just use the rule of thumb: must be in -next for two days because then >> I know 0day (and the other checkers) have also run. > > Do you *really* know that? > Given that there seems to be value in knowing "0day has run > successfully", should we ask for an interface to do exactly that? > > Hey .. we could even have a bot which watches lkml for pull requests, > grabs the git hash, and checks that 0day has run on it. If not - > automatic public shaming ensues :-) > As of today, I'm much less convinced that -next is suitable for this purpose. I have a really dumb, blatant, obvious regression sitting in -next right now, and it's been there for a couple of weeks with no one spotting it. The 0-day bot didn't spot it either (and yes, I emailed Fengguang suggesting another test for the bot). I think it's hard to find any real substitute for a soak in -rc or a real release. --Andy