From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6071C48BE6 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B05061410 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231800AbhFPSlR (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:41:17 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53162 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230410AbhFPSlQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 Jun 2021 14:41:16 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com (mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2b]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CDAC061574 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb2b.google.com with SMTP id q21so4410395ybg.8 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=r+bISz8wKvIAvassrhXoUQ11Pf56YcA53hsy6YDK6pM=; b=nnEc4KuymPG4FJ5vs27WWdUFgQsdmK8axYV1B9mIJ5mMnUcWQPgJtb1zBM2ZXYj9f+ tHmybJdmZow9pzbjl6JSkVSGBUs9nygx+CV5KnphtHhsb0kdCQzeRFfPV8hTWHpYimNh lSArGEjbie3Pf0MCCmEQOCQ+dEvhexNlEh47Z4x9w24L6O24jacFUj15JFOhXziUWxQR J4MYZrjrtstxcZUJr8CZxrRrz3L19FgIZ3VaKz+t39QaRDW41PJWsbc4yoyFpV5IfZs6 gzu1tJVEcyMmILWg2rWym9EtKnUW1XU9P/VBX4HuS4a1vAie8TSAjp545cuHfr27pvVv 2rjw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=r+bISz8wKvIAvassrhXoUQ11Pf56YcA53hsy6YDK6pM=; b=djxkv58kBJOzJjDt7v3Wmsg1jOBC/N7OMn/PCbW9KQKAnuERE9DJoJ5V5bggapagNw G8lE0aMnHrNP95aJf90Pcyiqg3o3O2CnDk4exwOb4mG1uLW1CS1x0O2AWVmPumTEg1G0 saFfcQbheRdiz/nEvBM+u67JpppUwKPgc08kYJd4ElcwmG+ZNwhEynlKamjcARWWZY6f 6aSsqqKoAD4yJnIO/FRyYBHKsJiNRgoieIyKNLb7RWXmzT5T2YkgT5osRVYVvLLAAYQQ JBj0qao1HM316NWP/Q1dHy5dZpb7RRjw+Rlrkw77dyiKdbljnJtrr6LqS4YQzwvbDpDd Bmeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Q7gJzbXS8K+6yO/y9EMMErF9QL2yZmGZso02y/riOAcCBN8uE 0FPtMlWePV/cEF5Z9QPLy8NOJLJZUkUv0e4hlAzQlHZYQfbQrhx2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwjGjEbQXz28ED3QJVFRyR5RYj3K0DUea+OEfasAt13Eyk1xbK+3cJcEjyWQq5EyztjOKYEoOam7X1yShPcFVw= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:892:: with SMTP id e18mr668795ybq.22.1623868748778; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210616171813.bwvu6mtl4ltotf7p@nitro.local> <20210616182252.flsdrkjuw2etwcud@nitro.local> In-Reply-To: <20210616182252.flsdrkjuw2etwcud@nitro.local> From: Miguel Ojeda Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:38:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: Github PR bot questions To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: users@linux.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 8:22 PM Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > That's pretty cool, but I'm opposed to this on theological grounds. :) > I think there's intrinsic value to development happening outside of any > proprietary environments, especially if this becomes cornerstone to how a > subsystem is maintained. GitHub being proprietary does not really matter -- we can migrate to any other similar service quite easily (even a kernel.org-hosted one!, e.g. a hosted GitLab instance). > I'm not saying Github is going to go away any time, but on the other hand we > just watched Freenode completely implode within the span of 3 weeks, so I'm > extra wary of introducing any single points of value into the development > workflow. If my pr bot goes away, it'll at most reduce the convenience of the > submission process, but not hobble it in any way, so I intend to just treat > Github as a developer frontend tool. Sure -- that is why the bot does not depend on any "advanced" or GitHub-specific feature: currently it only needs to read commits/PR/messages and post messages (i.e. the same as your bot), which is basic functionality that any GitHub/GitLab/...-like service must provide. Cheers, Miguel