From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3414271 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E70526113B; Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:09:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1619197771; bh=/bu7PKKm0NOEYj2utPFr3lw297biCTKe2oTu3AhjXqQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=DPeqnXrpe2i0uT3VVb4jlApTbLcmfDCf5aO/IaJRZ7cyV8IhMMLqMf5o+t4wWwBYg 3+GC9jd/yt8LETpZvJwkAhN78PqC2viUnD/eoNmzowCU3taPwLy1kv+l9HubEEqPW2 RZetR4+hzlreSKdxdKOWw5ZiG/RRfXzxKeSMW0RDmjfFLz16unOx3JFz6PxObyWx+3 sXXrL2li5htlhB3oiBIc6pKpMZmV2PlwzWxM0N/rQ6Mm2H3gCalPjcs8nKiZ+NCmSK obUeNpeRqjHCatME87bWfx9AAlMvWWUYq63UmA7GcO14rO0QBajiHkzWPkl/v8Ip8C njdo1l9wT4Bhw== Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 20:09:27 +0300 From: Leon Romanovsky To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Steven Rostedt , James Bottomley , Shuah Khan , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Greg KH Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Rethinking the acceptance policy for "trivial" patches Message-ID: References: <20210422123559.1dc647fb@coco.lan> <0d83502f-eb29-9b06-ada8-fcd03f9c87a8@linuxfoundation.org> <20210422115235.0526dabd@gandalf.local.home> <20210423095830.684d22c4@coco.lan> X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210423095830.684d22c4@coco.lan> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 09:58:30AM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Thu, 22 Apr 2021 11:52:35 -0400 > Steven Rostedt escreveu: > > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 08:48:21 -0700 > > James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 08:42 -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > > [...] > > > > 2. Improving the requirement for bug fixes and large series, like > > > > cover letters to everyone, adding fixes: tag and clear explanation. > > > > > > Just on this one, can we get the mailing list to help now we're moving > > > to a new infrastructure? I was already thinking of asking if it could > > > reject email with html parts rather than simply losing it, but perhaps > > > it could reject threaded submissions where the cover letter isn't > > > correctly cc'd? I know that's a big ask because there has to be an > > > easy way to recognize them (heuristics on the PATCH tag?) and a way to > > > recognize missing cc's (perhaps simply that someone cc'd on the > > > threaded [PATCH x/y] reply isn't cc'd on [PATCH 0/y]?) > > > > Unfortunately, this breaks all quilt users, as quilt does not support this. > > This will also break patch series that touch several subsystems. > > Out of curiosity, I ran my script letting it to place at the cover letter > maintainers, reviewers and mailing lists, for this patch series: > > [PATCH 000/190] Revertion of all of the umn.edu commits > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YIJyzkgglMrAzIwh@kroah.com/T/#m087445f69f5dd590b9ad5f4cdd62c2a812956435 > > The number of e-mails to be C/c is 221 e-mails! (see enclosed) > > An e-mail like that will almost for sure be ignored by all mail > servers[1], as the e-mail will be considered as SPAM. > > [1] Except if the servers would have explicit rules to allow such > really big c/c list to be accepted from maintainers, which is > risky. > > Looking at the actual e-mail from Greg at lore, the CC list was a lot > smaller than that: > > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , > Linus Torvalds , > Aditya Pakki , Kangjie Lu , > Qiushi Wu , x86@kernel.org, > Bjorn Helgaas , > "Rafael J. Wysocki" , > Arnd Bergmann , David Airlie , > Michael Turquette , > Bjorn Andersson , > Linus Walleij , > Bartosz Golaszewski , > Daniel Vetter , > Jean Delvare , > Guenter Roeck , > Jiri Kosina , Will Deacon , > Laurent Pinchart , > Jakub Kicinski , > "David S. Miller" , > Johan Hovold , > Jiri Slaby , > Pablo Neira Ayuso , > Johannes Berg , > Takashi Iwai > > (Not sure what criteria Greg used to shorten the C/c list) > > Thanks, > Mauro > > --- > > The auto-generated list of c/c is: Something wrong with this list, reverted RDMA commits should generate Cc: Jason Gunthorpe and Doug Ledford Thanks > > patches/tmp/0000-cover-letter.patch: > Cc: "David S. Miller" > Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" > Cc: "James E.J. Bottomley" > Cc: "Lad, Prabhakar" > Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" > Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" > Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" > Cc: Adit Ranadive > Cc: Alan Stern > Cc: Alasdair Kergon > Cc: Alessandro Zummo > Cc: Alex Elder > Cc: Alex Williamson > Cc: Alexander Aring > Cc: Alexandre Belloni > Cc: Alexandre Bounine > Cc: Alexandre Torgue > Cc: Alim Akhtar > Cc: Amitkumar Karwar > Cc: Andreas Noever > Cc: Andrew Jeffery > Cc: Andrew Lunn > Cc: Andrzej Hajda > Cc: Andy Gross > Cc: Ard Biesheuvel > Cc: Arnd Bergmann > Cc: Avri Altman > Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski > Cc: Benjamin Tissoires > Cc: Benoit Parrot > Cc: Benson Leung > Cc: Bjorn Andersson > Cc: Borislav Petkov > Cc: Chas Williams <3chas3@gmail.com> > Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai > Cc: Chris Leech > Cc: Chris Snook > Cc: Clemens Ladisch > Cc: Cornelia Huck > Cc: Daniel Lezcano > Cc: Daniel Vetter > Cc: David Ahern > Cc: David Airlie > Cc: David Rhodes > Cc: Dmitry Torokhov > Cc: Enric Balletbo i Serra > Cc: Erik Andren > Cc: Ezequiel Garcia > Cc: Fabio Estevam > Cc: Felipe Balbi > Cc: Ferenc Bakonyi > Cc: Florian Fainelli > Cc: Florian Westphal > Cc: Gabriel Somlo > Cc: Ganapathi Bhat > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman > Cc: Guenter Roeck > Cc: Guenter Roeck > Cc: Hans Verkuil > Cc: Hans de Goede > Cc: Heiko Stuebner > Cc: Hideaki YOSHIFUJI > Cc: Ingo Molnar > Cc: Jacob Chen > Cc: Jakub Kicinski > Cc: James Morse > Cc: James Schulman > Cc: Jan Kara > Cc: Jaroslav Kysela > Cc: Jean Delvare > Cc: Jean-Paul Roubelat > Cc: Jernej Skrabec > Cc: Jiri Kosina > Cc: Joerg Roedel > Cc: Johan Hovold > Cc: Johannes Berg > Cc: John Fastabend > Cc: Jon Maloy > Cc: Jonathan Cameron > Cc: Jozsef Kadlecsik > Cc: KP Singh > Cc: Kalle Valo > Cc: Karsten Keil > Cc: Kirti Wankhede > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski > Cc: Krzysztof Opasiak > Cc: Lars-Peter Clausen > Cc: Lee Duncan > Cc: Linus Walleij > Cc: Marcin Wojtas > Cc: Mark Brown > Cc: Mark Greer > Cc: Martin KaFai Lau > Cc: Matt Porter > Cc: Matthias Schwarzott > Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab > Cc: Maxime Coquelin > Cc: Maxime Ripard > Cc: Michael Jamet > Cc: Michael Turquette > Cc: Michal Ostrowski > Cc: Mika Westerberg > Cc: Mike Snitzer > Cc: NXP Linux Team > Cc: Oder Chiou > Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso > Cc: Patrik Jakobsson > Cc: Pavel Machek > Cc: Pengutronix Kernel Team > Cc: Peter Meerwald-Stadler > Cc: Peter Oberparleiter > Cc: Philipp Zabel > Cc: Ping-Ke Shih > Cc: Pravin B Shelar > Cc: Richard Genoud > Cc: Rob Herring > Cc: Robert Foss > Cc: Robert Richter > Cc: Russell King > Cc: SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@infineon.com > Cc: Sascha Hauer > Cc: Sebastian Reichel > Cc: Sharvari Harisangam > Cc: Shawn Guo > Cc: Simon Horman > Cc: Siva Rebbagondla > Cc: Solomon Peachy > Cc: Song Liu > Cc: Stefan Schmidt > Cc: Stefano Stabellini > Cc: Stephen Boyd > Cc: Steven Rostedt > Cc: Takashi Iwai > Cc: Thomas Gleixner > Cc: Todor Tomov > Cc: Tony Lindgren > Cc: VMware PV-Drivers > Cc: Vaibhav Agarwal > Cc: Vinod Koul > Cc: Vivien Didelot > Cc: Vladimir Oltean > Cc: Will Deacon > Cc: Xinming Hu > Cc: Xue Liu > Cc: Yehezkel Bernat > Cc: Ying Xue > Cc: Yonghong Song > Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org > Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org > Cc: brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@broadcom.com > Cc: clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com > Cc: coreteam@netfilter.org > Cc: dev@openvswitch.org > Cc: dm-devel@redhat.com > Cc: dmaengine@vger.kernel.org > Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org > Cc: greybus-dev@lists.linaro.org > Cc: intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org > Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org > Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org > Cc: libertas-dev@lists.infradead.org > Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-afs@lists.infradead.org > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org > Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org > Cc: linux-atm-general@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com > Cc: linux-clk@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-edac@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-hams@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-input@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-leds@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-nfc@lists.01.org > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org > Cc: linux-nvidia@lists.surfsouth.com > Cc: linux-omap@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org > Cc: linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-spi@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-staging@lists.linux.dev > Cc: linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com > Cc: linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev > Cc: linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org > Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org > Cc: netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org > Cc: nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org > Cc: ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com > Cc: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com > Cc: oss-drivers@netronome.com > Cc: patches@opensource.cirrus.com > Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org > Cc: rds-devel@oss.oracle.com > Cc: target-devel@vger.kernel.org > Cc: tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net > Cc: x86@kernel.org > Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org > Number of Cc at cover: 221 > >