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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Jon Grimm <jon.grimm@amd.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: AMD SEV-SNP/Intel TDX: validation of memory pages
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 00:51:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5bc3a04-62ec-075a-4693-101e5276dde3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210212215852.GL8912@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 12/02/21 22:58, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> But AFAI recursive #VE is entirely possible. The moment #VE reads that
> ve_info thing, NMIs can happen, which can trigger another #VE which then
> clobbers your stack and we're irrecoverably screwed again.

Yes, you need to zero the handler-active word in the info structure, and 
at that point recursion can happen.

A while ago Andy proposed re-enabling #VE from an interrupt, that would 
have worked at the time since we were concerned with asynchronous page 
faults but it wouldn't extend to TDX.

Unlike NMIs, however, #VE handlers can be written so that they only a 
single nesting happens. A few months ago, also while discussing #VE for 
asynchronous page faults, I came up with a scheme that did exactly that 
and handled recursion by flipping the IST between two stacks 
(https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/5/15/1239). It should work and it'd be 
almost entirely C code, but I don't expect you or Thomas to be ecstatic 
about it...

> (also, inhibiting NMI is a seriously dodgy hack, the very last thing x86
> needs is is more ductape on the recursion rules)

I can't disagree about that, but then again I don't see many alternatives.

Paolo



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-12 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-02  1:51 AMD SEV-SNP/Intel TDX: validation of memory pages David Rientjes
2021-02-02 13:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-02 16:02 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2021-02-03  0:16   ` Brijesh Singh
2021-02-11 17:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-02 22:37 ` Andi Kleen
2021-02-11 20:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 13:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-12 14:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 14:53     ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-12 15:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 15:28         ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-12 16:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 16:18             ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-12 16:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 17:48                 ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-12 18:22                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-12 18:38                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-02-12 18:43                       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-12 18:46                     ` Dave Hansen
2021-02-12 19:24                       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-16 10:00                 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-16 14:27                   ` Andi Kleen
2021-02-16 14:46                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-16 15:59                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 16:25                         ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-16 16:48                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 18:26                             ` Joerg Roedel
2021-02-16 18:33                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 16:47                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-16 16:57                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-02-16 17:05                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-16 16:55                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-02-12 21:42             ` Andi Kleen
2021-02-12 21:58               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 22:39                 ` Andi Kleen
2021-02-12 22:46                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-02-13  9:38                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-02-12 23:51                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-03-23  9:33 ` Joerg Roedel

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