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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	syzbot <syzbot+b7c3ba8cdc2f6cf83c21@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] tty: tty_io: remove hung_up_tty_fops
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 15:32:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b3b81374-a19d-4bf5-abb3-15e48c72f01a@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1c886023-ae61-46ba-bb3c-b460c30de937@paulmck-laptop>

On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:49:17PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:20:35PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 May 2024 at 14:06, Linus Torvalds
> > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > I'd love to see an extension where "const volatile" basically means
> > exactly that: the volatile tells the compiler that it can't
> > rematerialize by doing the load multiple times, but the "const" would
> > say that if the compiler sees two or more accesses, it can still CSE
> > them.

Except that "const volatile" already means "you cannot write to it,
and reads will not be fused".  :-/

> No promises, other than that if we don't ask, they won't say "yes".
> 
> Let me see what can be done.

From a semantics viewpoint __atomic_load_n(&x, __ATOMIC_RELAXED) would
work for loading from x.  The compilers that I tried currently do not
fuse loads, but they are allowed to do so.

Or is there something I am missing that would make this not work?
Aside from compilers not yet optimizing this case.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-01 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-21  8:18 [syzbot] [kernel?] KCSAN: data-race in __fput / __tty_hangup (4) syzbot
2023-04-21  8:21 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-04-21 15:12   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-21 16:02     ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-23 23:34     ` Al Viro
2023-04-23 23:55       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-24  0:44         ` Al Viro
2023-04-24  1:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-25 14:47             ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-25 16:03               ` Al Viro
2023-04-25 22:09                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-26 11:05                   ` [PATCH] tty: tty_io: remove hung_up_tty_fops Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 16:27                     ` Nathan Chancellor
2023-04-28 16:41                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 17:11                         ` Al Viro
2023-04-29 10:43                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-28 17:31                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-29 15:21                           ` Guenter Roeck
2023-05-01 18:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-14  1:02                     ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-30 10:44                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-05-30 11:57                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-05-30 12:51                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-04-27  6:20                             ` [PATCH v3] " Tetsuo Handa
2024-04-27 19:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-28 10:19                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-04-28 18:50                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 13:55                                     ` Marco Elver
2024-04-29 15:38                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 18:45                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 18:56                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 19:02                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 20:14                                               ` Marco Elver
2024-05-01 21:06                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 21:20                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01 21:49                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-01 22:32                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2024-05-02 16:37                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2024-05-03 23:59                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04  0:14                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04  5:08                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 17:50                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 18:18                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 19:11                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 19:25                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-04 22:17                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-04 22:04                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-05-02 14:14                                                   ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 16:42                                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-05-02 17:20                                                       ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 17:29                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-05-02 18:14                                                         ` Al Viro
2024-05-02 19:29                                                           ` Marco Elver
2024-05-02 23:54                                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2024-05-03  1:12                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-04-23 13:28   ` [syzbot] [kernel?] KCSAN: data-race in __fput / __tty_hangup (4) Tetsuo Handa
2023-04-23 14:00     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-23 14:03     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-04-23 14:17       ` Tetsuo Handa

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