Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help

From: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Loic PALLARDY <loic.pallardy-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Nathalie Chan King Choy
	<nathalie-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Francois Ozog
	<francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini
	<stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
	<dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Bruce Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Benjamin Gaignard
	<benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 19:08:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200207190841.GE32331@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d276b22b6e8249bc9eda9f92f9f52f5f-GGltqRL9kSEdIAuSVraBWEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

Hey Loic,

Cool, that's very helpful thanks! :-)

I'm building a spreadsheet of possible dates now as people share their
availability. </hint>

Cheers,

Steve

On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:48:45PM +0000, Loic PALLARDY wrote:
>Hi Steve,
>
>Sure, ST is interested to participate to a sprint on System Device tree definition.
>I can propose ST Le Mans office to host this event in Europe (Direct train access from CDG airport, only 5min by walk from train station).
>	
>Regards,
>Loic
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org <dte-interest-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> On Behalf Of
>> Nathalie Chan King Choy
>> Sent: jeudi 6 février 2020 18:48
>> To: Francois Ozog <francois.ozog-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Steve McIntyre
>> <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce
>> Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob
>> Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>;
>> Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson
>> <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> Subject: RE: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help
>> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Additional folks who spoke during the last System DT call & not shown on the
>> CC list were:
>> Loic from ST
>> Etsam & Dan from MGC
>> Tomas from Xilinx
>> 
>> @Loic, Etsam, Dan, Tomas: Are you guys interested?
>> 
>> Thanks & regards,
>> Nathalie
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: System-dt <system-dt-bounces-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org> On
>> Behalf
>> > Of Francois Ozog via System-dt
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 9:05 AM
>> > To: Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <stefanos-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; dte-all-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org; Bruce
>> > Ashfield <brucea-gjFFaj9aHVfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>; devicetree-spec-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org; Rob
>> > Herring <Rob.Herring-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>; Mark Brown <mark.brown-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>;
>> > Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>; Olof Johansson
>> > <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>; system-dt-ZwoEplunGu1b+pB8xrm1Mtaxn9tAw+E3@public.gmane.org; Arnd Bergmann
>> > <arnd-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [System-dt] System DT - thinking a sprint would help
>> >
>> > EXTERNAL EMAIL
>> >
>> > count me in.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 16:59, Steve McIntyre <steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all!
>> > >
>> > > [ tl;dr - we're trying to organise a sprint - see the end ]
>> > >
>> > > Due to the Linux on Arm meetup this week, quite a few of our DT
>> > > community happened to be in Cambridge together last night. We took
>> the
>> > > opportunity to get together for food and beer, and we naturally ended
>> > > up mulling over a whole range of things, not least the ongoing System
>> > > DT design work.
>> > >
>> > > As is the nature of this kind of gathering, we had a whole range of
>> > > opinions and ideas, much more than I can faithfully recall to share
>> > > here in great detail. Grant has been keen to try and keep system-dt
>> > > compatible with Linux DT usage if that's possible, and Stefano has
>> > > been working with that in mind. Rob is concerned about how things
>> > > might scale with lots of domains, for example. Olof is keen to talk
>> > > about a higher-level design to make it easier to express complex
>> > > layouts. And so on.
>> > >
>> > > There is one thing that *did* stand out: we agreed that it's probably
>> > > time to try and get all of the interested people in a room together
>> > > for a few days with a whiteboard, to really thrash out what's needed
>> > > and how to achieve it. With the right people, we can go through all
>> > > our needs, pick up the ideas we have and hopefully get some prototypes
>> > > ready to evaluate.
>> > >
>> > > So, who's interested? I believe all the people in CC here are likely
>> > > keen to be involved. Anybody else?
>> > >
>> > > Although we have Linaro Connect in Budapest at the end of March,
>> > > that's really *not* a good place to try and meet up, for a couple of
>> > > reasons: not everybody will be there, and we'll have too many
>> > > distractions to be able to focus on this. Let's *not* do that.
>> > >
>> > > AFAICS we're geographically roughly split between US/Canada and
>> > > Europe, so I'm thinking a week in either the US or Europe, some time
>> > > in the next 2-3 months:
>> > >
>> > >  * Would a week before or after Connect work, in Europe (16th-20th
>> > >    March, or 30th March to 3rd April)? I can look for options in the
>> > >    UK easily, with maybe either Arm or Linaro hosting.
>> > >
>> > >  * Alternatively, a week's meeting in the US, deliberately avoiding
>> > >    the Connect week so we don't wipe people out with travel: Maybe 2-6
>> > >    or 9-13 March? Or push back into April if that's too short notice,
>> > >    of course. Would Xilinx be able to host something for us, maybe? Or
>> > >    another possibility might be the Linaro office in Nashua?
>> > >
>> > > I'm open to other suggestions for time and venue. Let's try to make
>> > > something work here?
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Steve McIntyre                                steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
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>> >
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Cheers,
-- 
Steve McIntyre                                steve.mcintyre-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
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