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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Block updates for 6.9-rc1
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 18:22:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZfDVnVuDYwzDVnDx@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfDEtchBNeFLG-GV@infradead.org>

On Tue, Mar 12 2024 at  5:10P -0400,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:22:53AM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > blk_validate_limits() is currently very pedantic. I discussed with Jens
> > briefly and we're thinking it might make sense for blk_validate_limits()
> > to be more forgiving by _not_ imposing hard -EINVAL failure.  That in
> > the interim, during this transition to more curated and atomic limits, a
> > WARN_ON_ONCE() splat should serve as enough notice to developers (be it
> > lower level nvme or higher-level virtual devices like DM).
> 
> I guess.  And it more closely matches the status quo.  That being said
> I want to move to hard rejection eventually to catch all the issues.
> 
> > BUT for this specific max_segment_size case, the constraints of dm-crypt
> > are actually more conservative due to crypto requirements.
> 
> Honestly, to me the dm-crypt requirement actually doesn't make much
> sense: max_segment_size is for hardware drivers that have requirements
> for SGLs or equivalent hardware interfaces.  If dm-crypt never wants to
> see more than a single page per bio_vec it should just always iterate
> them using bio_for_each_segment.
> 
> > Yet nvme's
> > more general "don't care, but will care if non-nvme driver does" for
> > this particular max_segment_size limit is being imposed when validating
> > the combined limits that dm-crypt will impose at the top-level.
> 
> The real problem is that we combine the limits while we shouldn't.
> Every since we've supported immutable biovecs and do the splitting
> down in blk-mq there is no point to even inherit such limits in the
> upper drivers.

immutable biovecs, late splitting and blk-mq aren't a factor.

dm-crypt has to contend with the crypto subsystem and HW crypto
engines that have their own constraints.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-12 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-03-12 15:22             ` [GIT PULL] Block updates for 6.9-rc1 Mike Snitzer
2024-03-12 16:28               ` Keith Busch
2024-03-12 21:10               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-12 22:22                 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2024-03-12 22:30                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-12 22:50                     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-03-12 22:58                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-11 20:15                         ` [PATCH for-6.10 0/2] dm: use late bio-splitting and queue_limits_set Mike Snitzer
2024-04-11 20:15                         ` [PATCH for-6.10 1/2] dm-crypt: stop constraining max_segment_size to PAGE_SIZE Mike Snitzer
2024-04-12  6:11                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-15 14:08                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-23  7:32                           ` Ming Lei
2024-04-11 20:15                         ` [PATCH for-6.10 2/2] dm: use queue_limits_set Mike Snitzer
2024-04-23  7:33                           ` Ming Lei
2024-03-13 13:11                 ` [GIT PULL] Block updates for 6.9-rc1 Ming Lei

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