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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: "Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Mikulas Patocka" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: "GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"Zdenek Kabelac" <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
	"Ondrej Kozina" <okozina@redhat.com>,
	"Milan Broz" <gmazyland@gmail.com>,
	dm-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: memcpy is leaking secret data through ZMM vector registers
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 14:47:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d387436c-8c35-4f51-bf49-dc02d829c73a@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9cefd07d-2940-4865-bd77-3dd0899a539f@cs.ucla.edu>

On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, at 2:45 PM, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 4/19/24 11:04, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>> There's already "explicit_bzero", so maybe we could add
>> "explicit_memcpy"
>
> Where would this stop? Wouldn't we also need explicit_memcmp, 
> explicit_memmove, explicit_mempcpy, etc.? Pretty much any function that 
> looks at memory could have the problem. Even C source code that doesn't 
> invoke any C library function could have the problem.

As I recall, one of the arguments for _not_ adding explicit_bzero to glibc
was that we couldn't guarantee copies of the secret data wouldn't hang
around in registers.

Is a hypothetical function __attribute__((clear_call_clobbered_regs_on_exit))
what we need here instead, maybe?

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-19 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-19 14:07 memcpy is leaking secret data through ZMM vector registers Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-19 14:19 ` H.J. Lu
2024-04-19 14:24   ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-19 14:37     ` H.J. Lu
2024-04-19 18:04       ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-19 18:45         ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-19 18:47           ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2024-04-19 18:53             ` Alexander Monakov
2024-04-19 19:11               ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-19 20:15                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-19 20:31                   ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-19 21:11                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-04-19 23:27                       ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-20  3:29                         ` Zack Weinberg
2024-04-21  1:20 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-04-22  9:33 ` Szabolcs Nagy

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