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From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Security
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:21:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180924092136.fqlane5t2p3jx3ee@mwanda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1809231518440.15880@cbobk.fhfr.pm>

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 03:20:22PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2018, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > Sort of related to this.  I think we should have a public email list to
> > discuss potential security problems.  We've actually talked about making
> > the security@kernel.org list public at some point when people started
> > flooding it with static checker warnings about potential SELinux missing
> > checks.
> > 
> > The downsides are 1) Maintainers will be annoyed.  They don't want me or
> > anyone to forward them static checker output (they are polite about
> > this).  But they also want to be the first to know about real bugs found
> > by static analysis.  These are conflicting and impossible desires...  2)
> > Script kiddies will follow the list and learn about bugs earlier.  I
> > don't see this as a huge issue if we restricted it to driver specific
> > bugs.
> 
> 3) there simply is a need for CRD process for the kernel (which pretty 
>    much by definition is not happening publicly). Currently, security@ 
>    serves that purpose, so if you make that public, you have to 
>    instantiate some other process to deal with CRDs.

I'm not saying we would eliminate security@kernel.org.  We would keep
that.  security@kernel.org also does not want to answer questions about
every "suspicious code" that people find.

For coordinated responses you need linux-distros. security@kernel.org
does not do it.

security@kernel.org is there for two reasons.  First we need a contact
to deal with security issues.  About half the time when people send us
security reports to security@kernel.org then we just forward it to the
appropriate maintainer.  Second, it's has a bunch of core developers for
serious bugs in ptrace or similar which affect everyone.  Those kinds of
fixes are risky and complicated.  But after a fix is found then distros
are expected to handle the release and getting the CVE etc.

regards,
dan carpenter

      parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-24  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-21 21:14 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Security James Morris
2018-09-22 13:16 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-23 13:15   ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-23 13:20   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-23 18:34     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-23 18:54       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-24  9:21     ` Dan Carpenter [this message]

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