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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	users@linux.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 05:04:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231107040433.GA23816@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUkcyCb5DEVEDkKj@infradead.org>

On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 09:05:12AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 10:11:48AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > - due to the sheer volume of messages, LKML is generally seen as useless for
> > >   holding any actual discussions
> > 
> > I have never had that impression of LKML.
> 
> Same here, I am actually reading through lkml, although superficially
> skipping over some bits, and definitively starting discussions there.

Same here. I used to have a procmail filter to deliver lkml to its own
box a decade ago and I figured that I lost contact with what was happening
so I removed that filter so that I move all these messages manually several
times a day after scrolling over them (a single key in mutt). This way
every day I can have a quick glance at all subjects there, that's how I
discover new topics, patch series, discussions etc. I think that a non
negligible number of LKML subscribers are there for this exact reason.

I would personally miss these messages if they would not be delivered
there anymore :-/ And I don't think that the situation would significantly
improve in the short term anyway due to this.

> Restricting access to the new lkml is not acceptable.  How about
> restricting access to all lists for gmail addresses if gmail is so
> broken?

Or even simpler, flush the queue very often and make it clear that gmail
is not a reliable recipiet for LKML. The trouble will self-regulate.

Just my two cents,
Willy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-07  4:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-06 15:33 RFC: switching "THE REST" in MAINTAINERS away from linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-06 15:43 ` Joe Perches
2023-11-06 15:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2023-11-06 16:05 ` [workflows]RFC: " Steven Rostedt
2023-11-06 16:29   ` Miquel Raynal
2023-11-06 17:45     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-08 16:19   ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 16:44     ` Mark Brown
2023-11-08 18:16       ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 19:04         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-08 19:14           ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 19:34             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-08 20:07               ` [workflows]Re: " Steven Rostedt
2023-11-08 20:14                 ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 20:36                   ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 20:49                     ` Joe Perches
2023-11-08 20:56                       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-08 21:04                         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-08 21:11                           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-08 20:41                 ` Joe Perches
2023-11-09 11:21               ` Mark Brown
2023-11-09 11:29                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-11-09  8:32           ` Dan Carpenter
2023-11-09  9:27             ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-11-09 17:14               ` Alex Elder
2023-11-09 17:25                 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-09 19:11                   ` Joe Perches
2023-11-09 19:38                     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-09 23:16                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-11-10  0:56                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-11-10 17:04                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-10 17:24                             ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-10 17:55                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-10 17:24                             ` Rob Herring
2023-11-10 18:04                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-09 15:51             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-09 16:08               ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-11-09 16:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-11-06 16:11 ` RFC: " Eric W. Biederman
2023-11-06 17:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 17:41     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-09  3:55       ` Ian Kelling
2023-11-11 16:57       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-07  4:04     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2023-11-06 17:21   ` Eric Wong
2023-11-06 17:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-11-09 14:24   ` Naveen N Rao
2023-11-06 17:23 ` Richard Weinberger
2023-11-06 20:52   ` Randy Dunlap
2023-11-06 21:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-06 22:52 ` Pavel Machek
2023-11-07  9:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-11-07 10:15     ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-11-07 10:42       ` Greg KH
2023-11-07 12:14       ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-11-07 12:47         ` Julia Lawall
2023-11-07 13:18           ` Dan Carpenter
2023-11-07 13:23           ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-11-07 16:35           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-07 16:43             ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-11-07 16:51               ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-10 10:01                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-11-07 10:47     ` Mark Brown
2023-11-07 13:24 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-11-08 20:04 ` Bird, Tim
2023-11-08 21:03   ` Luck, Tony
2023-11-08 21:04   ` James Bottomley
2023-11-08 21:18     ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 21:30     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-21 14:53 ` Joe Perches
2023-11-21 18:08   ` Greg KH

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