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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: "Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@sony.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"ksummit@lists.linux.dev" <ksummit@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Between a rock and a hard place, managing expectations...
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 20:58:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZOe2VIuCkmal5YpV@finisterre.sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c140552-9c1c-5038-35b3-443d60de31f1@acm.org>

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On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 12:29:34PM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:

> The GKI indeed makes changes to the core kernel harder after its API has
> been frozen. Does carrier certification really require changes to the core
> kernel?

I don't know anything about the issue Tim was facing but I've definitely
run into issues during testing which were best fixed by extending the
core, sometimes it's not a straight bug in the core (which I'd guess
should be relatively easy to get a backport for, you can probably just
go via upstream stable) but rather that this is the appropriate layer to
handle whatever the issue is.  Teach the core about a concept, then tell
the core that your device does the thing which you've discovered needs
to be handled.

Note that I've got no experience working with GKI here, but unless
things have changed a lot there's not really any phase of the process
where there isn't substantial time pressure.

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      reply	other threads:[~2023-08-24 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-22  0:43 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Between a rock and a hard place, managing expectations Dan Williams
2023-08-22  8:55 ` Greg KH
2023-08-22 13:37   ` Linus Walleij
2023-08-22 14:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-24  0:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-24  8:16       ` Linus Walleij
2023-08-24 14:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-08-24 17:12         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-24 17:20           ` Bird, Tim
2023-08-24 19:29             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-08-24 19:58               ` Mark Brown [this message]

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