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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev, outreachy@lists.linux.dev,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: KTODO automated TODO lists
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 21:55:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4aa47e3-4858-41ba-813f-c17aa5f5ba7d@p183> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53c584c21f273548004a7ddb5aa4c04ec7bca1c5.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 07:45:55AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 08:29 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > On 23/10/2023 20:49, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:11:36 +0300 Dan Carpenter
> > > > <dan.carpenter@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Yesterday someone on my lists just sent an email looking for
> > > > > kernel
> > > > > tasks. 
> > > > 
> > > > Well here's a task: write a bot which follows the mailing lists
> > > > and
> > > > sends people nastygrams if one of their emails is more than
> > > > 95%(?)
> > > > quoted text.
> > > > 
> > > > It's happening significantly more lately.  Possibly because the
> > > > gmail
> > > > client helpfully hides quoted text.
> > > 
> > > I would also point to reviewers and maintainers who give a Rb/Ack
> > > tag:
> > > 1. somewhere at the top, without any footer like Best regards, and
> > > then
> > > quote entire patch, so I don't know shall I look for more comments
> > > after
> > > Rb/Ack?
> > > 
> > > 2. quote entire email and then add Rb/Ack, so I need to figure out
> > > whether there was something between the hundreds of lines of text
> > > or not.
> > 
> > Here we all are, brilliantly talented computer programmers who spend
> > our days making amazing fast digital devices do amazingly clever and
> > subtle things, inventing time-saving tools and processing vast
> > amounts of data without blinking, but for some reason we think the
> > task of skipping over a few thousand lines that all start with '> "
> > is too hard for us and that we should, in stead, complain to some
> > other human to convince them to make our life easier for us.
> > 
> > Does anyone else see the irony?
> 
> So if I'm a brilliantly talented driver, it's OK for other people to
> drive on the wrong side of the road because I should be able to avoid
> them?
> 
> The point being there are some situations where observing global
> etiquette is way more helpful than an individual solution, however
> talented the individual.

It's MUAs failure. Microsoft "solved" this problem by forcing top
posting onto everyone, but there is no reason Outlook couldn't scroll
to the first reply in the middle of email. I use mutt, it doesn't
scroll to the first reply either.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-25 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-19  4:11 KTODO automated TODO lists Dan Carpenter
2023-10-19 12:50 ` Linus Walleij
2023-10-19 13:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-19 15:43     ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-10-19 16:30     ` Bird, Tim
2023-10-19 17:34       ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-19 17:37         ` Bird, Tim
2023-10-19 17:47 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-10-23 18:49 ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-23 18:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-23 19:00     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-23 19:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-23 19:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-23 21:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-23 21:44         ` Tony Luck
2023-10-23 22:25           ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-23 19:41     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-10-24  4:58       ` Andrew Morton
2023-10-24 15:28       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-10-26 21:58         ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-10-23 21:45   ` NeilBrown
2023-10-24  7:19     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-24  7:25       ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-10-24  8:42         ` Jani Nikula
2023-10-24  8:52           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-10-24 12:36         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-24 13:12           ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-10-24 15:53   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-10-24 21:29     ` NeilBrown
2023-10-24 22:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-25  3:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-10-25 23:45           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-25  6:55       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-25 21:14         ` NeilBrown
2023-10-25 22:00           ` Randy Dunlap
2023-10-26  4:29           ` Dan Carpenter
2023-10-26  6:56             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-10-25  7:01       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-10-25 11:45       ` James Bottomley
2023-10-25 16:40         ` Jani Nikula
2023-10-25 18:07           ` James Bottomley
2023-10-25 18:10             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-25 19:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-10-25 21:19                 ` NeilBrown
2023-10-25 21:17               ` NeilBrown
2023-10-25 18:55         ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2023-10-25 19:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-10-25 20:03           ` Alexandre Belloni
2023-10-25 21:38         ` NeilBrown
2023-10-23 23:38 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2023-10-24  0:07   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2023-10-24  2:16   ` Joe Perches
2023-12-11 18:47   ` Steven Rostedt

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