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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Joe Damato <jdamato@fastly.com>
Cc: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, jlayton@kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, alexander.duyck@gmail.com,
	Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com>,
	Amritha Nambiar <amritha.nambiar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 11:59:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240205115955.5cde5a13@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240205185130.GB10463@fastly.com>

On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 10:51:30 -0800 Joe Damato wrote:
> > We reused the gro_flush_timeout as an existing "user doesn't care if
> > packets get delayed by this much in worst case" value. If you set
> > SO_PREFER_BUSY_POLL the next time you busy pool the NAPI will be marked 
> > as "already scheduled" and a timer is set (to gro_flush_timeout).
> > If NIC IRQ fires before gro_flush_timeout it gets ignored, because NAPI
> > is already marked as scheduled.
> > If you busy poll again the timer gets postponed for another
> > gro_flush_timeout nsec.
> > If timer fires we go back to normal NAPI processing.  
> 
> Ah, I see. From my reading of the code in busy_poll_stop (which could be
> wrong), defer_hard_irqs_count must also be non-zero to postpone the timer.
> 
> Is that right?
> 
> If so, I think the tricky thing with this is that these settings are
> system-wide, so they'd affect non-busy poll apps, too.
> 
> I think in the ideal case being able to set these on a per-NAPI basis would
> be very helpful. Maybe something for me to try working on next.

If wonder if it'd be good enough to do:

	min(defer_hard_irqs_count, 1)

there. If caller asked to prefer busy poll they clearly want to poll.
An explicit per-NAPI API works too, but it's a bit more work.
If I was doing the work I'd try min(..., 1) with the workload.
If there's value in having the full config - go for it.

      reply	other threads:[~2024-02-05 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-24  2:53 [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 1/3] eventpoll: support busy poll per epoll instance Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 2/3] eventpoll: Add per-epoll busy poll packet budget Joe Damato
2024-01-24  2:53 ` [net-next 3/3] eventpoll: Add epoll ioctl for epoll_params Joe Damato
2024-01-24 15:37   ` Joe Damato
2024-01-24  8:20 ` [net-next 0/3] Per epoll context busy poll support Eric Dumazet
2024-01-24 14:20   ` Joe Damato
2024-01-24 14:38     ` Eric Dumazet
2024-01-24 15:19       ` Joe Damato
2024-01-30 18:54   ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02  3:28     ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 17:23       ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02 18:22         ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 19:33           ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 19:58             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 20:23               ` Joe Damato
2024-02-02 20:50                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-02 20:55                   ` Joe Damato
2024-02-03  1:15                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-05 18:17                   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2024-02-05 18:52                     ` Joe Damato
2024-02-05 19:48                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-05 18:51                   ` Joe Damato
2024-02-05 19:59                     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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