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From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>, Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Shervin Oloumi <enlightened@chromium.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jorgelo@chromium.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, groeck@chromium.org,
	allenwebb@chromium.org, gnoack3000@gmail.com, areber@redhat.com,
	criu@openvz.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, jannh@google.com,
	brauner@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lsm: adds process attribute getter for Landlock
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 00:08:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b1b102b-3413-3669-5f3f-3a6987033a2d@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e83ef047-42f3-260d-1ac1-07c576cce9f8@schaufler-ca.com>


On 01/06/2023 23:34, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> On 6/1/2023 1:48 PM, Jeff Xu wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 6:26 AM Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> If I understand correctly:
>>>>> 1> A new lsm syscall - lsm_get_pid_attr():  Landlock will return the
>>>>> process's landlock sandbox status: true/false.
>>>> There would have to be a new LSM_ATTR_ENFORCMENT to query.

I guess there is a misunderstanding. What is the link between global 
system enforcement and the status of a sandboxed/restricted/enforced(?) 
process?

The attribute would then be something like LSM_ATTR_RESTRICTED to get a 
process restriction status, which might be the same for all processes 
with system-wide policies (e.g., SELinux) but not for Landlock.


>>>> Each LSM could then report what, if any, value it choose to.
>>>> I can't say whether SELinux would take advantage of this.
>>>> I don't see that Smack would report this attribute.
>>> I think such returned status for LSM_ATTR_ENFORCMENT query would make
>>> sense, but the syscall could also return -EPERM and other error codes.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Is this a right fit for SELinux to also return the process's enforcing
>>>>> mode ? such as enforcing/permissive.
>>> Paul could answer that, but I think it would be simpler to have two
>>> different queries, something like LSM_ATTR_ENFORCMENT and
>>> LSM_ATTR_PERMISSIVE queries.
>>>
>> Hi Paul, what do you think ? Could SELinux have something like this.
> 
> Not Paul, but answering anyway - No, those are system wide attributes, not
> process (task) attributes. You want some other syscall, say lsm_get_system_attr()
> for those.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230302185257.850681-1-enlightened@chromium.org>
2023-03-06 19:18 ` [PATCH 0/1] process attribute support for Landlock Mickaël Salaün
2023-03-07 14:16   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-03-08 22:25   ` Shervin Oloumi
2023-03-15  9:56     ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-03-16  6:19       ` Günther Noack
2023-03-17  8:38         ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-18 20:44       ` Shervin Oloumi
2023-05-24 16:09         ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-24 16:21         ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-18 20:45       ` [PATCH v2] lsm: adds process attribute getter " Shervin Oloumi
2023-05-18 21:26         ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-22 19:56           ` Paul Moore
2023-05-23  6:13             ` Jeff Xu
2023-05-23 15:32               ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-30 18:02                 ` Jeff Xu
2023-05-30 19:05                   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-31 13:01                   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-06-01 20:45                     ` Jeff Xu
2023-06-01 21:30                       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-23 21:12               ` Paul Moore
2023-05-24 15:38                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-24 16:02                   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-25 16:28                     ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-30 18:05                       ` Jeff Xu
2023-05-30 19:19                         ` Casey Schaufler
2023-05-31 13:26                           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-06-01 20:48                             ` Jeff Xu
2023-06-01 21:34                               ` Casey Schaufler
2023-06-01 22:08                                 ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2023-05-24 16:05           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-05-19  5:22         ` kernel test robot
2023-05-24 16:48         ` Mickaël Salaün

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