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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Matthew House <mattlloydhouse@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] add listmnt(2) syscall
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:22:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhQvpGUVzv=6M9f4NNn_qi+kjHPMVoppmSitHs6HVgZDOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegtJwcS9=7dCAVCEoBwD_U2MX44a6B62iDsc78AZt6nM7Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 6:07 AM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sept 2023 at 18:48, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ideally we avoid multiple capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) calls by only doing it
> > > once and saving the return value. capable() call's aren't that cheap.
> >
> > Agreed.  The capability check doesn't do any subject/object
> > comparisons so calling it for each mount is overkill.  However, I
> > would think we would want the LSM hook called from inside the loop as
> > that could involve a subject (@current) and object (individual mount
> > point) comparison.

My apologies, I was traveling and while I was quickly checking my
email each day this message was lost.  I'm very sorry for the delay in
responding.

> The security_sb_statfs() one?

Yes.

> Should a single failure result in a complete failure?

My opinion is that it should only result in the failure of that
listing/stat'ing that particular mount; if other mounts are allowed to
be queried than the operation should be allowed to continue.

> Why is it not enough to check permission on the parent?

Each mount has the potential to have a unique security identify in the
context of the LSM, and since the LSM access controls are generally
intended to support a subject-verb-object access control policy we
need to examine the subject and object together (the subject here is
@current, the object is the individual mount, and the verb is the
stat/list operation).

Does that make sense?

I'm looking at the v3 patchset right now, I've got some small nits,
but I'll add those to that thread.

-- 
paul-moore.com

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-13 15:22 [RFC PATCH 0/3] quering mount attributes Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-13 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] add unique mount ID Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14  9:03   ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-14  9:30     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14  9:36       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-14  9:43         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14 10:06           ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-15  1:31           ` Ian Kent
2023-09-13 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] add statmnt(2) syscall Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14  6:11   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-15  1:05     ` Ian Kent
2023-09-14  9:27   ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-14 10:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14 15:26       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-15  8:56         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-18 13:51           ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-18 14:14             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-18 14:24               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-18 14:32                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-18 14:40                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-18 14:51                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-18 15:22                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-18 15:39                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-19  0:37                           ` Matthew House
2023-09-19  8:02                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-19  9:07                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-19 10:51                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-19 12:41                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-19 12:59                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-19 13:18                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-19 21:28                               ` Matthew House
2023-09-20  9:42                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-20 13:26                                   ` Matthew House
2023-09-21  7:34                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-26 13:48               ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-26 14:06                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-26 14:19                   ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-26 14:33                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-26 14:39                       ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-26 14:36                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-26 14:13                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-18 20:58             ` Andreas Dilger
2023-09-19 12:50               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-20  0:33                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-09-18 14:29         ` Jeff Layton
2023-09-18 14:35           ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-20  9:43           ` David Laight
2023-09-14 20:39   ` Paul Moore
2023-09-15  9:10     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-17 18:18   ` Sargun Dhillon
2023-09-17 23:36     ` Ian Kent
2023-09-18 13:05       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-25 12:57   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-25 13:04     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-25 13:13       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-25 13:19         ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-25 13:20           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-25 15:46             ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-26 10:05               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-27  8:46             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-13 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] add listmnt(2) syscall Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14  6:00   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-14  8:50     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-14 10:01       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-15  1:00     ` Ian Kent
2023-09-17  0:54   ` Matthew House
2023-09-17 14:32     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-18 13:15       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-19 16:47         ` Paul Moore
2023-09-28 10:07           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-04 19:22             ` Paul Moore [this message]
2023-09-14  6:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] quering mount attributes Amir Goldstein
2023-09-15  1:20   ` Ian Kent
2023-09-15  3:06     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-16  2:04       ` Ian Kent
2023-09-16  2:19       ` Ian Kent

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