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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Tycho Andersen <tandersen@netflix.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 13:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZXN2u2oJl1Z6FTqt@tycho.pizza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207-avancieren-unbezahlbar-9258f45ec3ec@brauner>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:25:09PM +0100, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > If these concerns are correct
> 
> So, ok. I misremebered this. The scenario I had been thinking of is
> basically the following.
> 
> We have a thread-group with thread-group leader 1234 and a thread with
> 4567 in that thread-group. Assume current thread-group leader is tsk1
> and the non-thread-group leader is tsk2. tsk1 uses struct pid *tg_pid
> and tsk2 uses struct pid *t_pid. The struct pids look like this after
> creation of both thread-group leader tsk1 and thread tsk2:
> 
> 	TGID 1234				TID 4567 
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_PID]  = tsk1		t_pid[PIDTYPE_PID]  = tsk2
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] = tsk1		t_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] = NULL
> 
> IOW, tsk2's struct pid has never been used as a thread-group leader and
> thus PIDTYPE_TGID is NULL. Now assume someone does create pidfds for
> tsk1 and for tsk2:
> 	
> 	tg_pidfd = pidfd_open(tsk1)		t_pidfd = pidfd_open(tsk2)
> 	-> tg_pidfd->private_data = tg_pid	-> t_pidfd->private_data = t_pid
> 
> So we stash away struct pid *tg_pid for a pidfd_open() on tsk1 and we
> stash away struct pid *t_pid for a pidfd_open() on tsk2.
> 
> If we wait on that task via P_PIDFD we get:
> 
> 				/* waiting through pidfd */
> 	waitid(P_PIDFD, tg_pidfd)		waitid(P_PIDFD, t_pidfd)
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] == tsk1		t_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] == NULL
> 	=> succeeds				=> fails
> 
> Because struct pid *tg_pid is used a thread-group leader struct pid we
> can wait on that tsk1. But we can't via the non-thread-group leader
> pidfd because the struct pid *t_pid has never been used as a
> thread-group leader.
> 
> Now assume, t_pid exec's and the struct pids are transfered. IIRC, we
> get:
> 
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_PID]   = tsk2		t_pid[PIDTYPE_PID]   = tsk1
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID]  = tsk2		t_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID]  = NULL
> 
> If we wait on that task via P_PIDFD we get:
> 	
> 				/* waiting through pidfd */
> 	waitid(P_PIDFD, tg_pidfd)		waitid(P_PIDFD, t_pid)
> 	tg_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] == tsk2		t_pid[PIDTYPE_TGID] == NULL
> 	=> succeeds				=> fails
> 
> Which is what we want. So effectively this should all work and I
> misremembered the struct pid linkage. So afaict we don't even have a
> problem here which is great.

It sounds like we need some tests for waitpid() directly though, to
ensure the semantics stay stable. I can add those and send a v3,
assuming the location of do_notify_pidfd() looks ok to you in v2:

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231207170946.130823-1-tycho@tycho.pizza/

Tycho

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 16:39 [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 16:39 ` [RFC 2/3] selftests/pidfd: add non-thread-group leader tests Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 16:39 ` [RFC 3/3] clone: allow CLONE_THREAD | CLONE_PIDFD together Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 17:39 ` [RFC 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders Oleg Nesterov
2023-11-30 17:56   ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-01 16:31     ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-07 17:57       ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-07 21:25         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08 20:04           ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2023-11-30 18:37 ` Florian Weimer
2023-11-30 18:54   ` Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 19:00     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2023-11-30 19:17       ` Tycho Andersen
2023-11-30 19:43       ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-06 15:27         ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-07 22:58         ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08  3:16           ` Jens Axboe
2023-12-08 13:15           ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-08 13:48             ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-08 13:58               ` Florian Weimer
2023-12-07 17:21 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-07 17:52   ` Tycho Andersen
2023-12-08 17:47   ` Jan Kara

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