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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 41/43] security: kmsan: fix interoperability with auto-initialization
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:33:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbjVhSbd+wkvihfm@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG_fn=XSMbgyJZnivZCh30M3JYQsJZZ0yL+5z074B_WrEBkRDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 06:00:41PM +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 5:38 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman
> <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > > @@ -124,6 +125,7 @@ choice
> > >       config INIT_STACK_ALL_ZERO
> > >               bool "zero-init everything (strongest and safest)"
> > >               depends on CC_HAS_AUTO_VAR_INIT_ZERO
> > > +             depends on !KMSAN
> >
> > So this means KMSAN is a developer debugging feature only and should
> > never be turned on on a real device/server that has users?
> 
> 100% correct. KMSAN is way slower than KASAN, it also eats 2/3 of your
> memory to store the metadata.
> I thought it was sort of self-evident, but I can surely mention this
> explicitly in the cover letter.

Please mention it here and in the Kconfig option for it as well (don't
know if it was there or not.)

Also you might want to print out very large "DO NOT USE THIS ON A REAL
MACHINE" to the kernel log when booting, like other kernel options are
starting to do that should not be enabled.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-14 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14 16:20 [PATCH 00/43] Add KernelMemorySanitizer infrastructure Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 01/43] arch/x86: add missing include to sparsemem.h Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 02/43] stackdepot: reserve 5 extra bits in depot_stack_handle_t Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 03/43] kasan: common: adapt to the new prototype of __stack_depot_save() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 04/43] instrumented.h: allow instrumenting both sides of copy_from_user() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 05/43] asm: x86: instrument usercopy in get_user() and __put_user_size() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 06/43] asm-generic: instrument usercopy in cacheflush.h Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 07/43] compiler_attributes.h: add __disable_sanitizer_instrumentation Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:24   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-15 13:33     ` Marco Elver
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 08/43] kmsan: add ReST documentation Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 09/43] kmsan: introduce __no_sanitize_memory and __no_kmsan_checks Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:27   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 10/43] kmsan: pgtable: reduce vmalloc space Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:36   ` Mark Rutland
2022-03-18 14:14     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 11/43] libnvdimm/pfn_dev: increase MAX_STRUCT_PAGE_SIZE Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 12/43] kcsan: clang: retire CONFIG_KCSAN_KCOV_BROKEN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:33   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-15 13:39     ` Marco Elver
2021-12-15 14:43       ` Mark Rutland
2022-03-18 14:34         ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 13/43] kmsan: add KMSAN runtime core Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:34   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-16 10:33     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-17 16:22       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-03-21 14:12         ` Alexander Potapenko
     [not found]   ` <CACT4Y+Y_torRwzh0eDMn+pJh=YT26hGrAPA499WqN1dV+4bDHA@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-21 13:17     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 14/43] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 15/43] kmsan: mm: maintain KMSAN metadata for page operations Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 16/43] kmsan: mm: call KMSAN hooks from SLUB code Alexander Potapenko
2022-01-07 17:22   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-03-25 13:15     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 17/43] kmsan: handle task creation and exiting Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 18/43] kmsan: unpoison @tlb in arch_tlb_gather_mmu() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 19/43] kmsan: init: call KMSAN initialization routines Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 20/43] instrumented.h: add KMSAN support Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 21/43] kmsan: mark noinstr as __no_sanitize_memory Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:49   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 22/43] kmsan: initialize the output of READ_ONCE_NOCHECK() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 23/43] kmsan: make READ_ONCE_TASK_STACK() return initialized values Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 24/43] kmsan: disable KMSAN instrumentation for certain kernel parts Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 13:53   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 25/43] kmsan: skip shadow checks in files doing context switches Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 14:13   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-15 16:28     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 17:22       ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 26/43] kmsan: virtio: check/unpoison scatterlist in vring_map_one_sg() Alexander Potapenko
2022-01-06 12:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 27/43] x86: kmsan: add iomem support Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 28/43] kmsan: dma: unpoison DMA mappings Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 29/43] kmsan: handle memory sent to/from USB Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 30/43] kmsan: add tests for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 31/43] kmsan: disable strscpy() optimization under KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 32/43] crypto: kmsan: disable accelerated configs " Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 33/43] kmsan: disable physical page merging in biovec Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-15 14:17   ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-15 16:30     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 34/43] kmsan: block: skip bio block merging logic for KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 35/43] x86: kmsan: use __msan_ string functions where possible Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 36/43] x86: kmsan: sync metadata pages on page fault Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 37/43] x86: kasan: kmsan: support CONFIG_GENERIC_CSUM on x86, enable it for KASAN/KMSAN Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 38/43] x86: fs: kmsan: disable CONFIG_DCACHE_WORD_ACCESS Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 39/43] x86: kmsan: handle register passing from uninstrumented code Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-17 21:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-20 14:35     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 40/43] kmsan: kcov: unpoison area->list in kcov_remote_area_put() Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 41/43] security: kmsan: fix interoperability with auto-initialization Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:38   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-14 17:00     ` Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 17:33       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 42/43] objtool: kmsan: list KMSAN API functions as uaccess-safe Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:20 ` [PATCH 43/43] x86: kmsan: enable KMSAN builds for x86 Alexander Potapenko
2021-12-14 16:36 ` [PATCH 00/43] Add KernelMemorySanitizer infrastructure Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-16 10:12   ` Alexander Potapenko

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