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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: peterx@redhat.com, will@kernel.org, scott@os.amperecomputing.com,
	cl@gentwo.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: mm: force write fault for atomic RMW instructions
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 18:25:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkeTFiF_OOy80stO@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <570c686c-6aa1-43f0-ba31-3597a329e037@os.amperecomputing.com>

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 09:30:23AM -0700, Yang Shi wrote:
> On 5/14/24 3:39 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > It would be good to understand why openjdk is doing this instead of a
> > plain write. Is it because it may be racing with some other threads
> > already using the heap? That would be a valid pattern.
> 
> Yes, you are right. I think I quoted the JVM justification in earlier email,
> anyway they said "permit use of memory concurrently with pretouch".

Ah, sorry, I missed that. This seems like a valid reason.

> > A point Will raised was on potential ABI changes introduced by this
> > patch. The ESR_EL1 reported to user remains the same as per the hardware
> > spec (read-only), so from a SIGSEGV we may have some slight behaviour
> > changes:
> > 
> > 1. PTE invalid:
> > 
> >     a) vma is VM_READ && !VM_WRITE permission - SIGSEGV reported with
> >        ESR_EL1.WnR == 0 in sigcontext with your patch. Without this
> >        patch, the PTE is mapped as PTE_RDONLY first and a subsequent
> >        fault will report SIGSEGV with ESR_EL1.WnR == 1.
> 
> I think I can do something like the below conceptually:
> 
> if is_el0_atomic_instr && !is_write_abort
>     force_write = true
> 
> if VM_READ && !VM_WRITE && force_write == true

Nit: write implies read, so you only need to check !write.

>     vm_flags = VM_READ
>     mm_flags ~= FAULT_FLAG_WRITE
> 
> Then we just fallback to read fault. The following write fault will trigger
> SIGSEGV with consistent ABI.

I think this should work. So instead of reporting the write fault
directly in case of a read-only vma, we let the core code handle the
read fault and first and we retry the atomic instruction.

> >     b) vma is !VM_READ && !VM_WRITE permission - SIGSEGV reported with
> >        ESR_EL1.WnR == 0, so no change from current behaviour, unless we
> >        fix the patch for (1.a) to fake the WnR bit which would change the
> >        current expectations.
> > 
> > 2. PTE valid with PTE_RDONLY - we get a normal writeable fault in
> >     hardware, no need to fix ESR_EL1 up.
> > 
> > The patch would have to address (1) above but faking the ESR_EL1.WnR bit
> > based on the vma flags looks a bit fragile.
> 
> I think we don't need to fake the ESR_EL1.WnR bit with the fallback.

I agree, with your approach above we don't need to fake WnR.

> > Similarly, we have userfaultfd that reports the fault to user. I think
> > in scenario (1) the kernel will report UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WRITE with
> > your patch but no UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WP. Without this patch, there are
> > indeed two faults, with the second having both UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WP
> > and UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WRITE set.
> 
> I don't quite get what the problem is. IIUC, uffd just needs a signal from
> kernel to tell this area will be written. It seems not break the semantic.
> Added Peter Xu in this loop, who is the uffd developer. He may shed some
> light.

Not really familiar with uffd but just looking at the code, if a handler
is registered for both MODE_MISSING and MODE_WP, currently the atomic
instruction signals a user fault without UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WRITE (the
do_anonymous_page() path). If the page is mapped by the uffd handler as
the zero page, a restart of the instruction would signal
UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WRITE and UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WP (the do_wp_page()
path).

With your patch, we get the equivalent of UFFD_PAGEFAULT_FLAG_WRITE on
the first attempt, just like having a STR instruction instead of
separate LDR + STR (as the atomics behave from a fault perspective).

However, I don't think that's a problem, the uffd handler should cope
with an STR anyway, so it's not some unexpected combination of flags.

-- 
Catalin

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-17 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-07 22:35 [PATCH] arm64: mm: force write fault for atomic RMW instructions Yang Shi
2024-05-07 22:42 ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-05-08  6:45 ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-08 17:15   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-05-09  4:23     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-13 22:39       ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-05-08 18:37   ` Yang Shi
2024-05-09  4:31     ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-09 21:46       ` Yang Shi
2024-05-10  4:28         ` Anshuman Khandual
2024-05-10 16:37           ` Yang Shi
2024-05-10 12:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2024-05-10 17:13   ` Yang Shi
2024-05-13 22:41     ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2024-05-14 10:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-05-14 15:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-05-17 16:30       ` Yang Shi
2024-05-17 17:25         ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2024-05-17 17:35           ` Yang Shi
2024-05-14  3:19   ` Yang Shi
2024-05-14 10:53     ` Catalin Marinas
2024-05-17 16:10       ` Yang Shi

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