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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Helge Deller" <deller@gmx.de>, "Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] arch,fbdev: Move screen_info into arch/
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 16:42:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ce4ddce0-ceea-426c-b348-d22468d7c402@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f9185435-74bb-a325-8fe6-3beb51a66e0a@suse.de>

On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, at 16:15, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> Am 29.06.23 um 15:31 schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
>> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, at 13:45, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>>> Future directions: with the patchset in place, it will become possible
>>> to provide screen_info and edid_info only if there are users. Some
>>> architectures do this by testing for CONFIG_VT, CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE,
>>> etc. A more uniform approach would be nice. We should also attempt
>>> to minimize access to the global screen_info as much as possible. To
>>> do so, some drivers, such as efifb and vesafb, would require an update.
>>> The firmware's EDID data could possibly made available outside of fbdev.
>>> For example, the simpledrm and ofdrm drivers could provide such data
>>> to userspace compositors.
>> 
>> I suspect that most architectures that provide a screen_info only
>> have this in order to compile the framebuffer drivers, and provide
>> hardcoded data that does not even reflect any real hardware.
>
> That's quite possible. Only x86's bootparam and EFI code sets 
> screen_info from external data. The rest is hardcoded. A number of 
> architectures protect screen_info with CONFIG_VT, CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE, 
> etc. In a later patchset, I wanted to change this such that these users 
> of screen_info would enable the feature via select in their Kconfig.
>
> Do you know the reason for this branch in dummycon:
>
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.4/source/drivers/video/console/dummycon.c#L21
>
> What is special about arm that dummycon uses the screeninfo?

I can only guess myself, but I see that the values are only ever
set from the old ATAGS data, and not from DT on any of the
modern ones, and my interpretation is that this is meant to
match whatever the vga console was set to on the three
platforms that support vgacon.
 
I see this was added in linux-2.1.111, just before the
corresponding sparc specific hack was removed, but I don't have
patch descriptions from that era. Russell might remember, or know
if that is actually still needed.

   Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-29 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-29 11:45 [PATCH 00/12] arch,fbdev: Move screen_info into arch/ Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 01/12] efi: Do not include <linux/screen_info.h> from EFI header Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-04 16:23   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-05  1:40   ` [01/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-07-05  8:00     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 02/12] fbdev/sm712fb: Do not include <linux/screen_info.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-04 16:25   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 03/12] sysfb: Do not include <linux/screen_info.h> from sysfb header Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-04 16:26   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-05  1:41   ` [03/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 04/12] staging/sm750fb: Do not include <linux/screen_info.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-04 16:27   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 05/12] arch: Remove trailing whitespaces Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-04 16:27   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-07-05  1:25   ` [05/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 06/12] arch: Declare screen_info in <asm/screen_info.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 12:55   ` WANG Xuerui
2023-06-29 13:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-29 13:18     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-05  1:21   ` [06/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-07-05  8:02     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-08-18 14:04   ` suijingfeng
2023-08-18 14:18     ` suijingfeng
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 07/12] arch/x86: Declare edid_info " Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 12:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-29 13:01     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 13:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-30  7:46         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-30 11:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-07-05  8:18             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-18 14:47               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 08/12] drivers/firmware: Remove trailing whitespaces Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-05  1:26   ` [08/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-07-05  7:46   ` [PATCH 08/12] " Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 09/12] drivers: Add dependencies on CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_SCREEN_INFO Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 10/12] fbdev/core: Use fb_is_primary_device() in fb_firmware_edid() Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-05  8:02   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 11/12] fbdev/core: Protect edid_info with CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_EDID_INFO Thomas Zimmermann
2023-07-05  1:43   ` [11/12] " Sui Jingfeng
2023-06-29 11:45 ` [PATCH 12/12] fbdev/core: Define empty fb_firmware_edid() in <linux/fb.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 13:31 ` [PATCH 00/12] arch,fbdev: Move screen_info into arch/ Arnd Bergmann
2023-06-29 14:15   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-06-29 14:42     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-06-29 14:29   ` Arnd Bergmann

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