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From: Kuninori Morimoto <kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: cleanup soc_get_playback_capture()
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2024 01:09:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttjytayy.wl-kuninori.morimoto.gx@renesas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1f63065-6d8a-404f-b4be-331d829f802f@linux.intel.com>


Hi Pierre-Louis

> > (X) part is for DPCM, and it checks playback/capture availability
> > if dai_link has dpcm_playback/capture flag (a)(b).
> > This availability check should be available not only for DPCM, but for
> > all connections. But it is not mandatory option. Let's name it as
> > assertion.
> 
> I don't follow the 'not mandatory option'. Why not make these
> 'assertions' mandatory? What happens in case the the option is not present?

The big reason why "assertion flag" is not mandatory is that non-DPCM doesn't
have such flag before. I can't add such flags to all of non-DPCM,
because I don't know which direction (playback/capture) is available on
each DAIs.

> > In case of having assertion flag, non specific side will be disabled.
> 
> Not following the wording, multiple negatives and not clear on what
> 'side' refers to (direction or DPCM/non-DPCM).

How about this ?

	If either playback or capture assertion flag was presented,
	not presented direction will be disabled by ASoC even if
	it was available.

> I see a contradiction between "expanding the assertion to all
> connections" and "not mandatory".
(snip)
> again the 'not mandatory' and 'non specific side will be disabled' are
> confusing.
(snip)
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Assertion check
> > +	 *
> > +	 * playback_assertion = 0	No assertion check.
> > +	 * capture_assertion  = 0	ASoC will use detected playback/capture as-is.
> > +	 *				No playback, No capture will be error.
> 
> did you mean "this combination will be handled as an error" ?

Hmm... is it word selection issue ?? is "must_support" better ?

(playback_xxx, capture_xxx)

(0, 0) : Both are not must item. available direction is used as-is.
         But it will be error if nothing was available.

(1, 0) : DAI must support selected direction.
(0, 1)   Not selected direction will be disabled even though it was available

(1, 1) : Both must be supported.

> It's probably best to have a different presentation, to avoid
> confusions. Using multiple lines without a separator isn't great.
> 
> Suggested example:
> 
> playback_assertion = 0 capture_assertion  = 0
> this combination will be handled as an error
> 
> playback_assertion = 1 capture_assertion  = 0
> the DAIs in this dailink must support playback.
> ASoC will disable capture.
> In other words "playback_only"

Yeah, I agree

> > +	 * playback_assertion = 1	DAI must playback available. ASoC will disable capture.
> > +	 * capture_assertion  = 0	In other words "playback_only"
> > +	 *
> > +	 * playback_assertion = 0	DAI must capture available. ASoC will disable playback.
> > +	 * capture_assertion  = 1	In other words "capture_only"
> > +	 *
> > +	 * playback_assertion = 1	DAI must both playback/capture available.
> > +	 * capture_assertion  = 1
> 
> nit-pick: the 'must X available' does not read well, 'must support X' is
> probably what you meant.

Thanks. will fix in v4

> > +	if (dai_link->capture_assertion) {
> > +		if (!has_capture) {
> > +			dev_err(rtd->dev, "%s capture assertion check error\n", dai_link->stream_name);
> > +			return -EINVAL;
> > +		}
> > +		/* makes it capture only */
> > +		if (!dai_link->playback_assertion)
> > +			has_playback = 0;
> > +	}
> 
> we probably want a dev_ log when the has_playback/capture is overridden?

OK, will do in v4


Thank you for your help !!

Best regards
---
Renesas Electronics
Ph.D. Kuninori Morimoto

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-19  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-18  4:11 [PATCH v3 00/23] ASoC: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:12 ` [PATCH v3 01/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: cleanup soc_get_playback_capture() Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 16:20   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-19  1:09     ` Kuninori Morimoto [this message]
2024-04-19 13:17       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-22  4:46         ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-22 20:12           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-23  4:56             ` Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:12 ` [PATCH v3 02/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: indicate warning if DPCM BE Codec has no settings Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:12 ` [PATCH v3 03/23] ASoC: soc-dai: remove snd_soc_dai_link_set_capabilities() Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:12 ` [PATCH v3 04/23] ASoC: amd: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 05/23] ASoC: fsl: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 06/23] ASoC: sof: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 07/23] ASoC: meson: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 08/23] ASoC: Intel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 09/23] ASoC: mediatek: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:13 ` [PATCH v3 10/23] ASoC: soc-core: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 11/23] ASoC: soc-topology: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 12/23] ASoC: soc-compress: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 13/23] ASoC: Intel: avs: boards: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 14/23] ASoC: ti: Replace playback/capture_only " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 15/23] ASoC: amd: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 16/23] ASoC: fsl: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:14 ` [PATCH v3 17/23] ASoC: mxs: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/23] ASoC: atmel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/23] ASoC: Intel: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18 11:19   ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-04-18 16:26     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-04-19  7:31       ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/23] ASoC: samsung: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/23] ASoC: generic: " Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/23] ASoC: soc-pcm: remove dpcm_playback/capture and playback/capture_only Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-18  4:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/23] ASoC: doc: Replace dpcm_playback/capture to playback/capture_assertion Kuninori Morimoto
2024-04-22 21:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/23] ASoC: " Pierre-Louis Bossart

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