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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	 Francesco Valla <francesco@valla.it>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	 David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jocelyn Falempe <jfalempe@redhat.com>,
	 Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add splash DRM client
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 18:19:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23clcxtgbzbsji2knwp47xdc5udj7lnhbvzsgqi3vklvmhdgjd@26ycx2ed77l4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <93cbbaef-918f-4300-aa5b-11f098e217b2@amd.com>

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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:31:06AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 10/27/25 11:28 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 10/27/25 7:35 AM, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > > > > >     - a very simple progress bar, which can be driven through sysfs;
> > > > 
> > > > Once you have options to control these settings from user space, you
> > > > should do it in user space entirely. As Maxime suggested, please improve
> > > > plymouth for anything with animation.
> > > > 
> > > > > >     - a static image (optional).
> > > > 
> > > > Board vendors often provide an image, see /sys/firmware/acpi/bgrt/. This
> > > > is a candidate for display, or the penguin or a custom image. Please
> > > > make it configurable by Kconfig. Again, if you need policy and
> > > > heuristics for deciding what to display, you better do this in user
> > > > space.
> > > 
> > > I'd actually argue that the static image from BGRT should be the preferred
> > > priority.  This can make for a nice hand off to Plymouth.
> > > 
> > > The (UEFI) BIOS already will show this image as soon as the GOP driver is
> > > loaded.  Bootloaders like GRUB by default will avoid showing anything or
> > > will overwrite with the exact same image in the same location.  This can let
> > > the kernel do the same, and then the moment Plymouth takes over it could do
> > > the same.
> > 
> > And BGRT isn't typically found on embedded systems at all, so I'm not
> > sure it's a sensible default, let alone a priority. At most a possible
> 
> There are certainly embedded machines using UEFI and that have a BGRT.

Yes, indeed, hence the "typically".

> How about "Sensible default the top of the priority list if it exists"

How about we don't tell contributors what their priorities must be?

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-27 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-26 23:03 [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add splash DRM client Francesco Valla
2025-10-26 23:03 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] drm: client: add splash client Francesco Valla
2025-10-26 23:03 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] MAINTAINERS: add entry for DRM " Francesco Valla
2025-10-26 23:03 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] drm: docs: remove bootsplash from TODO Francesco Valla
2025-10-27 10:09 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add splash DRM client Maxime Ripard
2025-10-27 12:35   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-10-27 16:01     ` Mario Limonciello
2025-10-27 16:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-27 16:31         ` Mario Limonciello
2025-10-27 17:19           ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2025-10-28  8:09             ` Francesco Valla
2025-10-28 13:39               ` Mario Limonciello
2025-10-29  8:36               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-10-28  8:03     ` Francesco Valla
2025-10-28  7:58   ` Francesco Valla
2025-10-29  8:34     ` Maxime Ripard

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