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From: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jlayton@kernel.org" <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
	"dan.aloni@vastdata.com" <dan.aloni@vastdata.com>,
	"chuck.lever@oracle.com" <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc] nfs: propagate readlink errors in nfs_symlink_filler
Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 22:40:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1d98e76-1b5c-4d91-a7fe-9412df7c2fab@grimberg.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d2bc7f1-b5c2-469c-9351-772626c707d7@grimberg.me>

Hey Trond,

>> filehandle is stale? There will have been an unlink() on the symlink at
>> some point in the recent past.
>>
>
> No reason that I can see. However given that this was observed in the 
> wild, and essentially
> a common pattern with symlinks (overwrite a config file for example), 
> I think its reasonable
> to have the vfs at least do a single retry, by simply returning ESTALE.
> However NFS cannot distinguish between first and second retries 
> afaict... Perhaps the
> vfs can help with a ESTALE->ENOENT conversion?

So what do you suggest we do here? IMO at a minimum NFS should retry 
once similar
to nfs4_file_open (it would probably address 99.9% of the use-cases 
where symlinks are
not overwritten in a high enough frequency for the client to see 2 
consecutive stale readlink
rpc rplies).

I can send a patch paired with a vfs ESTALE conversion patch? 
alternatively retry locally in NFS...
I would like to understand your position here.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-22 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-21 12:58 [PATCH rfc] nfs: propagate readlink errors in nfs_symlink_filler Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-21 13:22 ` Jeff Layton
2024-05-21 14:36   ` Dan Aloni
2024-05-21 15:05   ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-21 15:13     ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-21 15:24       ` Chuck Lever III
2024-05-22  4:41         ` Dan Aloni
2024-05-22 12:11           ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-21 16:09       ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-22 19:40         ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
2024-05-22 21:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-22 21:19             ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-30 18:08               ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-30 18:21                 ` Trond Myklebust
2024-05-31  4:24                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2024-05-22 21:20             ` Jeff Layton
2024-05-21 14:02 ` Chuck Lever
2024-05-21 14:59   ` Sagi Grimberg

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