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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] drm: Restore helper usability
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:46:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b9d6f182-cec2-44d2-9fcf-4fc6589fffac@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNARNb0kB=cytOmJn+K59vQ8ekESqY-=1SFDOQox-B3GJrQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024, at 21:42, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:24 AM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024, at 18:58, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 3:55 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024, at 15:28, Jani Nikula wrote:
>>
>> I think hiding this would make it much harder to get anything
>> right. The symbols in question are almost all ones that should
>> be enabled in normal configs, and the 'make menuconfig' help
>> doesn't make it too hard to figure things out normally, we just
>> have to find a way to avoid regressions when converting things
>> to 'depends on' that used an incorrect 'select'.
>
> I am confused because you repeatedly discussed
> the missing I2C dependency.
>
>
> Are you talking about DRM drivers,
> or is it just "an example" in general?
>
>
>
> DRM selects I2C.

It's a prominent example because I2C ends up showing
up in most circular dependencies. I forgot that CONFIG_DRM
itself selects this one, but this is clearly part of the
overall problem:

$ git grep -w 'select I2C' | wc -l
35
$ git grep -w 'depends on I2C' | wc -l
1068

Attempting to clean up some of the incorrect 'select'
statements, such as changing DRM_NOUVEAU to 'depends on
ACPI_VIDEO' instead of 'select' tends to run into
another 'select I2C' such as this one:

drivers/i2c/Kconfig:8:	symbol I2C is selected by DRM_NOUVEAU
drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/Kconfig:2:	symbol DRM_NOUVEAU depends on ACPI_VIDEO
drivers/acpi/Kconfig:214:	symbol ACPI_VIDEO depends on BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE
drivers/video/backlight/Kconfig:136:	symbol BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE is selected by FB_BACKLIGHT
drivers/video/fbdev/core/Kconfig:184:	symbol FB_BACKLIGHT is selected by HT16K33
drivers/auxdisplay/Kconfig:490:	symbol HT16K33 depends on I2C

Again, I2C was probably not the best example for an urgent problem
as it ends up being selected unconditionally anyway, but
I think ACPI_VIDEO and BACKLIGHT_CLASS_DEVICE are the ones that
we should stop selecting.

> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig b/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig
> index 5a0c476361c3..6984b3fea271 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/Kconfig
> @@ -29,6 +29,8 @@ menuconfig DRM
>           details.  You should also select and configure AGP
>           (/dev/agpgart) support if it is available for your platform.
> 
> +if DRM
> +
>  config DRM_MIPI_DBI
>         tristate
>         depends on DRM
> @@ -414,3 +416,5 @@ config DRM_LIB_RANDOM
>  config DRM_PRIVACY_SCREEN
>         bool
>        default n
> +
> +endif

This is a probably good idea (aside from DRM_PANEL_ORIENTATION_QUIRKS,
which needs to be moved out of the section), but seems completely
unrelated to the issue of selecting too many symbols.

     Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22 20:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-22 10:30 [PATCH 00/11] drm: Restore helper usability Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 01/11] Revert "drm: fix DRM_DISPLAY_DP_HELPER dependencies, part 2" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 02/11] Revert "drm/display: Select DRM_KMS_HELPER for DP helpers" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 03/11] Revert "drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: Make DRM_DW_HDMI selectable" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 04/11] Revert "drm: fix DRM_DISPLAY_DP_HELPER dependencies" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 05/11] Revert "drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HDMI_HELPER to depends on" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 06/11] Revert "drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HDCP_HELPER " Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 07/11] Revert "drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_DP_HELPER " Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 08/11] Revert "drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_DP_AUX_BUS " Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 09/11] Revert "drm: Switch DRM_DISPLAY_HELPER " Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 10/11] Revert "drm: Make drivers depends on DRM_DW_HDMI" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 10:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] Revert "drm/display: Make all helpers visible and switch to depends on" Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 11:50 ` [PATCH 00/11] drm: Restore helper usability Jani Nikula
2024-04-22 12:27   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2024-04-22 12:30   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-22 13:28     ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-22 13:54       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-22 16:58         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 17:14           ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-22 18:02             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-04-22 18:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-04-22 19:42             ` Masahiro Yamada
2024-04-22 20:46               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2024-04-22 17:00         ` Jani Nikula
2024-04-22 18:11           ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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