From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Argangeli <andrea@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] oom reaper: handle mlocked pages
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 09:26:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160309082623.GA27018@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1603081139380.8735@eggly.anvils>
On Tue 08-03-16 12:07:24, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 29-02-16 14:41:39, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Sun 28-02-16 19:19:11, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > On Mon 22-02-16 17:36:07, David Rientjes wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are we concerned about munlock_vma_pages_all() taking lock_page() and
> > > > > > perhaps stalling forever, the same way it would stall in exit_mmap() for
> > > > > > VM_LOCKED vmas, if another thread has locked the same page and is doing an
> > > > > > allocation?
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a good question. I have checked for that particular case
> > > > > previously and managed to convinced myself that this is OK(ish).
> > > > > munlock_vma_pages_range locks only THP pages to prevent from the
> > > > > parallel split-up AFAICS.
> > > >
> > > > I think you're mistaken on that: there is also the lock_page()
> > > > on every page in Phase 2 of __munlock_pagevec().
> > >
> > > Ohh, I have missed that one. Thanks for pointing it out!
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > > > Just for the reference this is what I came up with (just compile tested).
> > > >
> > > > I tried something similar internally (on an earlier kernel). Like
> > > > you I've set that work aside for now, there were quicker ways to fix
> > > > the issue at hand. But it does continue to offend me that munlock
> > > > demands all those page locks: so if you don't get back to it before me,
> > > > I shall eventually.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't understand why you complicated yours with the "enforce"
> > > > arg to munlock_vma_pages_range(): why not just trylock in all cases?
> > >
> > > Well, I have to confess that I am not really sure I understand all the
> > > consequences of the locking here. It has always been subtle and weird
> > > issues popping up from time to time. So I only wanted to have that
> > > change limitted to the oom_reaper. So I would really appreciate if
> > > somebody more knowledgeable had a look. We can drop the mlock patch for
> > > now.
> >
> > According to the rc7 announcement it seems we are approaching the merge
> > window. Should we drop the patch for now or the risk of the lockup is
> > too low to care about and keep it in for now as it might be already
> > useful and change the munlock path to not depend on page locks later on?
> >
> > I am OK with both ways.
>
> You're asking about the Subject patch, "oom reaper: handle mlocked pages",
> I presume. Your Work-In-Progress mods to munlock_vma_pages_range() should
> certainly be dropped for now, and revisited by one of us another time.
I believe it hasn't landed in the mmotm yet.
> I vote for dropping "oom reaper: handle mlocked pages" for now too.
OK, Andrew, could you drop oom-reaper-handle-mlocked-pages.patch for
now. We will revisit it later on after we make the munlock path page
lock free.
> If I understand correctly, the purpose of the oom reaper is to free up
> as much memory from the targeted task as possible, while avoiding getting
> stuck on locks; in advance of the task actually exiting and doing the
> freeing itself, but perhaps getting stuck on locks as it does so.
>
> If that's a fair description, then it's inappropriate for the oom reaper
> to call munlock_vma_pages_all(), with the risk of getting stuck on many
> page locks; best leave that risk to the task when it exits as at present.
> Of course we should come back to this later, fix munlock_vma_pages_range()
> with trylocks (on the pages only? rmap mutexes also?), and then integrate
> "oom reaper: handle mlocked pages".
Fair enough.
> (Or if we had the old mechanism for scanning unevictable lrus on demand,
> perhaps simply not avoid the VM_LOCKED vmas in __oom_reap_vmas(), let
> the clear_page_mlock() in page_remove_*rmap() handle all the singly
> mapped and mlocked pages, and un-mlock the rest by scanning unevictables.)
I will have a look at this possibility as well.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-09 8:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-03 13:13 [PATCH 0/5] oom reaper v5 Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 13:13 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm, oom: introduce oom reaper Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 23:48 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-04 6:41 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 13:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:50 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 13:13 ` [PATCH 2/5] oom reaper: handle mlocked pages Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 23:57 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-23 1:36 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-23 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 3:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-29 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:40 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 20:07 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-09 8:26 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-02-03 13:13 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: clear TIF_MEMDIE after oom_reaper managed to unmap the address space Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 14:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 14:43 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 15:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 16:31 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-05 11:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-06 8:30 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 11:23 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:47 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 6:45 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 14:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:40 ` [PATCH 3.1/5] oom: make oom_reaper freezable Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 13:13 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm, oom_reaper: report success/failure Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 23:10 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-04 6:46 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 22:31 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-05 9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 6:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 13:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm, oom_reaper: implement OOM victims queuing Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 10:49 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 5:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-06 8:37 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-06 15:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:15 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-16 11:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-16 15:53 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 9:48 ` [PATCH 6/5] oom, oom_reaper: disable oom_reaper for Michal Hocko
2016-02-17 10:41 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-17 11:33 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-19 18:34 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-20 2:32 ` [PATCH 6/5] oom, oom_reaper: disable oom_reaper for oom_kill_allocating_task Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-22 9:41 ` Michal Hocko
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