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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:03:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod7y08qE0Zw0TB+1y28w19cRyccNXRC=Cy6bazW1HAXLZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YG7ugXZZ9BcXyGGk@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 4:52 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
[...]
>
> What I am trying to say (and I have brought that up when demotion has been
> discussed at LSFMM) is that the implementation shouldn't be PMEM aware.
> The specific technology shouldn't be imprinted into the interface.
> Fundamentally you are trying to balance memory among NUMA nodes as we do
> not have other abstraction to use. So rather than talking about top,
> secondary, nth tier we have different NUMA nodes with different
> characteristics and you want to express your "priorities" for them.
>

I am also inclined towards NUMA based approach. It makes the solution
more general and even existing systems with multiple numa nodes and
DRAM can take advantage of this approach (if it makes sense).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-12 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 17:08 [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/11] mm: Define top tier memory node mask Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/11] mm: Add soft memory limit for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/11] mm: Account the top tier memory usage per cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/11] mm: Report top tier memory usage in sysfs Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/11] mm: Add soft_limit_top_tier tree for mem cgroup Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/11] mm: Handle top tier memory in cgroup soft limit memory tree utilities Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/11] mm: Account the total top tier memory in use Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/11] mm: Add toptier option for mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim() Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/11] mm: Use kswapd to demote pages when toptier memory is tight Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/11] mm: Set toptier_scale_factor via sysctl Tim Chen
2021-04-05 17:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/11] mm: Wakeup kswapd if toptier memory need soft reclaim Tim Chen
2021-04-06  9:08 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Manage the top tier memory in a tiered memory Michal Hocko
2021-04-07 22:33   ` Tim Chen
2021-04-08 11:52     ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-09 23:26       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-12 19:20         ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-14  8:59           ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-04-15  0:42           ` Tim Chen
2021-04-13  2:15         ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-13  8:33         ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-12 14:03       ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2021-04-08 17:18 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 18:00   ` Yang Shi
2021-04-08 20:29     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-08 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-12 14:03         ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-09  7:24       ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-15 22:31         ` Tim Chen
2021-04-16  6:38           ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-14 23:22       ` Tim Chen
2021-04-09  2:58     ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-09 20:50       ` Yang Shi
2021-04-15 22:25   ` Tim Chen

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