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From: Antonio Quartulli <antonio@openvpn.net>
To: Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Ryazanov <ryazanov.s.a@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Esben Haabendal <esben@geanix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 09/24] ovpn: implement basic TX path (UDP)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 09:37:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d707980-72d1-49d1-a9e8-f794fcc590cb@openvpn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkE2JmBCj-yJ3xYK@hog>

On 12/05/2024 23:35, Sabrina Dubroca wrote:
> 2024-05-06, 03:16:22 +0200, Antonio Quartulli wrote:
>> +/* send skb to connected peer, if any */
>> +static void ovpn_queue_skb(struct ovpn_struct *ovpn, struct sk_buff *skb,
>> +			   struct ovpn_peer *peer)
>> +{
>> +	int ret;
>> +
>> +	if (likely(!peer))
>> +		/* retrieve peer serving the destination IP of this packet */
>> +		peer = ovpn_peer_get_by_dst(ovpn, skb);
>> +	if (unlikely(!peer)) {
>> +		net_dbg_ratelimited("%s: no peer to send data to\n",
>> +				    ovpn->dev->name);
>> +		goto drop;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	ret = ptr_ring_produce_bh(&peer->tx_ring, skb);
>> +	if (unlikely(ret < 0)) {
>> +		net_err_ratelimited("%s: cannot queue packet to TX ring\n",
>> +				    peer->ovpn->dev->name);
>> +		goto drop;
>> +	}
>> +
>> +	if (!queue_work(ovpn->crypto_wq, &peer->encrypt_work))
>> +		ovpn_peer_put(peer);
> 
> I wanted to come back to this after going through the crypto patch,
> because this felt like a strange construct when I first looked at this
> patch.
> 
> Why are you using a workqueue here? Based on the kdoc for crypto_wq
> ("used to schedule crypto work that may sleep during TX/RX"), it's to
> deal with async crypto.
> 
> If so, why not use the more standard way of dealing with async crypto
> in contexts that cannot sleep, ie letting the crypto core call the
> "done" callback asynchronously? You need to do all the proper refcount
> handling, but IMO it's cleaner and simpler than this workqueue and
> ptr_ring. You can see an example of that in macsec (macsec_encrypt_*
> in drivers/net/macsec.c).

Aha! You don't know how happy I was when I found the doc describing how 
to convert the async code into sync-looking :-) With the detail that I 
had to move to a different context, as the code may want to sleep (hence 
the introduction of the workqueue).

It looks like I am little fan of WQs, while you are telling me to avoid 
them if possible.

I presume that using WQs comes with a non-negligible cost, therefore if 
we can just get things done without having to use them, then I should 
just don't.

I think I could go back to no-workqueue encrypt/decrypt.
Do you think this may have any impact on any future multi-core 
optimization? Back then I also thought that going through workers may 
make improvements in this area easier. But I could just be wrong.

Regards,


-- 
Antonio Quartulli
OpenVPN Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-13  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-06  1:16 [PATCH net-next v3 00/24] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/24] netlink: add NLA_POLICY_MAX_LEN macro Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/24] net: introduce OpenVPN Data Channel Offload (ovpn) Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/24] ovpn: add basic netlink support Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08  0:10   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-08  7:42     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08 14:42   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-08 14:51     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/24] ovpn: add basic interface creation/destruction/management routines Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08  0:18   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-08  7:53     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08 14:52   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09  1:06     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-09  8:25     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 10:09       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09 10:35         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 12:16           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09 13:25             ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 13:52               ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/24] ovpn: implement interface creation/destruction via netlink Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08  0:21   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-08  9:49     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09  1:09       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-09  8:30         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/24] ovpn: keep carrier always on Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/24] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_peer object Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08 16:06   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-08 20:31     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 13:04       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09 13:24         ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-10 18:57           ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-11  0:28             ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-09 13:44         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 13:55           ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-09 14:17           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09 14:36             ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 14:53               ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-10 10:30                 ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-10 12:34                   ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-10 14:11                     ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13 10:09   ` Simon Horman
2024-05-13 10:53     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-13 15:04       ` Simon Horman
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/24] ovpn: introduce the ovpn_socket object Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-08 17:10   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-08 20:38     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09 13:32       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-09 13:46         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/24] ovpn: implement basic TX path (UDP) Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-10 13:01   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-10 13:39     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-12 21:35   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  7:37     ` Antonio Quartulli [this message]
2024-05-13  9:36       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  9:47         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/24] ovpn: implement basic RX " Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-10 13:45   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-10 14:41     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 11/24] ovpn: implement packet processing Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-12  8:46   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  7:14     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-13  9:24       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  9:31         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-22 14:08     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-22 14:28       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 12/24] ovpn: store tunnel and transport statistics Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-12  8:47   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  7:25     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-13  9:19       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13  9:33         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 13/24] ovpn: implement TCP transport Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-13 13:37   ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-13 15:34     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-13 14:50   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-13 22:20     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-14  8:58       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-14 22:11         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-15 10:19           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-15 12:54             ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-15 14:55               ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-15 19:44                 ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-15 20:35                   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-15 20:39                     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 14/24] ovpn: implement multi-peer support Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-28 14:44   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-28 19:41     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-29 15:16       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-29 20:15         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-29 20:45           ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 15/24] ovpn: implement peer lookup logic Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-28 16:42   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-28 20:09     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-29 16:42       ` Sabrina Dubroca
2024-05-29 20:19         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 16/24] ovpn: implement keepalive mechanism Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 17/24] ovpn: add support for updating local UDP endpoint Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 18/24] ovpn: add support for peer floating Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 19/24] ovpn: implement peer add/dump/delete via netlink Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 20/24] ovpn: implement key add/del/swap " Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 21/24] ovpn: kill key and notify userspace in case of IV exhaustion Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 22/24] ovpn: notify userspace when a peer is deleted Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 23/24] ovpn: add basic ethtool support Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-06  1:16 ` [PATCH net-next v3 24/24] testing/selftest: add test tool and scripts for ovpn module Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-07 23:55   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-08  9:51     ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09  0:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-09  8:40         ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-07 23:48 ` [PATCH net-next v3 00/24] Introducing OpenVPN Data Channel Offload Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-08  9:56   ` Antonio Quartulli
2024-05-09  0:53     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-09  8:41       ` Antonio Quartulli

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