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From: Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	incoming+qemu-project-qemu-11167699-3xhw7c0pviow7og92yv73e0tr-issue-404@incoming.gitlab.com,
	QEMU devel list <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: tb_flush() calls causing long Windows XP boot times
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 09:58:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4006E151-B420-4925-A6C9-CD036EE559F2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878s3cjyvl.fsf@linaro.org>



> On Jun 14, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
> Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> On 11/06/2021 19:22, Alex Bennée wrote:
>> 
>> (added Gitlab on CC)
>> 
>>> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On 11/06/21 17:01, Programmingkid wrote:
>>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>>> The good news is the source code to Windows XP is available
>>>>> online:https://github.com/cryptoAlgorithm/nt5src
>>>> 
>>>> It's leaked, so I doubt anybody who's paid to work on Linux or QEMU
>>>> would touch that with a ten-foot pole.
>>> Indeed.
>>> Anyway what the OP could do is run QEMU with gdb and -d nochain and
>>> stick a breakpoint (sic) in breakpoint_invalidate. Then each time it
>>> hits you can examine the backtrace to cpu_loop_exec_tb and collect the
>>> data from tb->pc. Then you will have a bunch of addresses in Windows
>>> that keep triggering the behaviour. You can then re-run with -dfilter
>>> and -d in_asm,cpu to get some sort of idea of what Windows is up to.
>> 
>> I have been able to recreate this locally using my WinXP and it looks
>> like during boot WinXP goes into a tight loop where it writes and
>> clears a set of breakpoints via writes to DB7 which is what causes the
>> very slow boot time.
>> 
>> Once boot proceeds further into the login screen, the same code seems
>> to called periodically once every second or so which has less of a
>> performance impact.
>> 
>> 
>> This gives a repeated set of outputs like this:
>> 
>> ##### bpi @ 0x90
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053cab8, index 1
>> ##### bpi @ 0xa4
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053cab8, index 2
>> ##### bpi @ 0xff
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053cab8, index 3
>> ##### bpi @ 0xf
> 
> That's weird - maybe this is a misunderstanding of the x86 debug
> registers but it looks like it's setting each one to all the same value. 
> 
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053f58a, index 0
>> ##### bpi @ 0x90
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053f58a, index 1
>> ##### bpi @ 0xa4
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053f58a, index 2
>> ##### bpi @ 0xff
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053f58a, index 3
>> ...
>> ...
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053c960, index 0
>> ##### bpi @ 0x90
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053c960, index 1
>> ##### bpi @ 0xa4
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053c960, index 2
>> ##### bpi @ 0xff
>> ### dp7 add bp inst @ 0x8053c960, index 3
>> ##### bpi @ 0xf
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053c730, index 0
>> ##### bpi @ 0x90
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053c730, index 1
>> ##### bpi @ 0xa4
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053c730, index 2
>> ##### bpi @ 0xff
>> ### dp7 remove bp inst @ 0x8053c730, index 3
>> ...
>> ...
> 
> I wonder if this is Windows check pointing itself by observing when it
> gets to a particular place in the boot sequence. I guess we don't have
> any symbols for the addresses it's setting?
> 
>> 
>> From a vanilla XP install the 2 main sections of code which alter the
>> breakpoint registers are at 0x8053cab8 (enable) and 0x8053f58a
>> (disable):
> 
> Ahh I misread - so those are the addresses of the routines and not where
> it's sticking the breakpoint?
> 
> I notice from a bit of googling that there is a boot debugger. I wonder
> if /nodebug in boot.ini stops this behaviour?
> 
>  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/performance/switch-options-for-boot-files
> 
> -- 
> Alex Bennée

Hi Alex, 

I tried your suggestion of using /nodebug. It did not stop the tb_flush() function from being called. 

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-15 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-10 12:59 tb_flush() calls causing long Windows XP boot times Programmingkid
2021-06-10 13:14 ` Peter Maydell
2021-06-10 13:24   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-11 11:24     ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-11 15:01       ` Programmingkid
2021-06-11 17:13         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-06-11 18:22           ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-13 14:03             ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-14 14:37               ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-15 13:58                 ` Programmingkid [this message]
2021-06-16  1:58                   ` Richard Henderson
2021-06-16  8:59                     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2021-06-16 12:53                       ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-16 13:06                         ` Peter Maydell
2021-06-16 15:30                           ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-16 13:21                       ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-16 12:12                     ` Programmingkid
2021-06-10 13:38   ` Programmingkid
2021-06-14 22:19 ` no-reply

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