From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS14383 205.234.109.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=3.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER, RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Wong Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.ruby.unicorn.general,gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rainbows.general Subject: Unicorn/Rainbows! mailing list migration Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:44:26 -0700 Message-ID: <20091029224426.GA12314@dcvr.yhbt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256856278 21162 80.91.229.12 (29 Oct 2009 22:44:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: meta@librelist.com To: mongrel-unicorn@rubyforge.org, rainbows-talk@rubyforge.org Original-X-From: mongrel-unicorn-bounces@rubyforge.org Thu Oct 29 23:44:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gclrug-mongrel-unicorn@m.gmane.org X-Original-To: mongrel-unicorn@rubyforge.org Delivered-To: mongrel-unicorn@rubyforge.org Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-BeenThere: mongrel-unicorn@rubyforge.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: mongrel-unicorn-bounces@rubyforge.org Errors-To: mongrel-unicorn-bounces@rubyforge.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.lang.ruby.unicorn.general:117 gmane.comp.lang.ruby.rainbows.general:14 Archived-At: Received: from rubyforge.org ([205.234.109.19]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N3djK-0005Od-0s for gclrug-mongrel-unicorn@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:44:30 +0100 Received: from rubyforge.org (rubyforge.org [127.0.0.1]) by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3611588065; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net (dcvr.yhbt.net [64.71.152.64]) by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799311858293; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [12.186.229.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53C501F606; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:44:26 +0000 (UTC) As I'm sure you've all heard by now, RubyForge will be moving to a read-only state and we'll have to migrate our mailing lists somewhere. == librelist I'm leaning strongly towards librelist.com. I've had good, but limited experiences with it. I like that librelist has no logins or accounts to deal with; just email the list you want to join and reply to the automated message to subscribe. It also has downloadable archives via rsync. librelist is run by Zed Shaw, the same guy who started Mongrel (which eventually led us to Unicorn). While I don't believe in giving any single entity too much power and influence, Zed's done a lot of good for Mongrel and handed it off gracefully when he didn't want to work on it anymore. For these reason, I think librelist will be in good hands for years to come. I probably would've picked librelist if it had been around when I started this RubyForge list in May 2009. I started Rainbows! more recently, but continued using RubyForge because I wanted everything Rainbows!-related on RubyForge.org (oops!). == Other options Google Groups is out. Spam has been a big problem in the few groups I've joined and I'd rather trust Zed than Google for mailing lists. Also I don't know of a way to get archives from Google without scraping. SourceForge - I've had spam problems in the past, mailman... Savannah - no idea about the quality, but uses mailman... I've also considered hosting the list ourselves, but that might be too much work and spreading ourselves too thin at the moment. Any other list hosting options out there we should consider? It must be a mailing list that does not mangle plain-text patches. Or any votes in favor of migrating to librelist sooner rather than later? I'll work on getting the gmane NNTP mirrors moved over as well. == Other stuff related to RubyForge going read-only... Gem hosting will (obviously) be taken care of by our new Gemcut^WRubygems.org overlords. The tarballs for non-RubyGems users will probably just be moved to a files/ section of the websites; it'll be even be easier to find and download tarballs in automated scripts that way, too. Since we're using git, our repositories are mirrored everywhere already and was never centrally-hosted on RubyForge in the first place. http://rainbows.rubyforge.org/ will probably be redirected to http://rainbows.bogomips.org/ (same box as the Unicorn website). Should you ever want to access either of the sites offline, just make sure you have RDoc 2.4.x ("gem install rdoc" if you're on 1.8) and run `make doc' or `gmake doc' in the latest source tree. -- Eric Wong