unicorn Ruby/Rack server user+dev discussion/patches/pulls/bugs/help
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Eric Wong <e@80x24.org>
To: Hongli Lai <hongli@phusion.nl>
Cc: Michael Fischer <mfischer@zendesk.com>,
	Gary Grossman <gary.grossman@gmail.com>,
	unicorn-public <unicorn-public@bogomips.org>,
	Michael Grosser <michael@grosser.it>
Subject: Rack encodings (was: Please move to github)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 08:48:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140804084806.GA22323@dcvr.yhbt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM3ce8GnCGaODj0SptDW2cTF_cQQS1eBZH1n5E5Xs7J_0DL8Zw@mail.gmail.com>

(Long overdue Subject: change)

Hongli Lai <hongli@phusion.nl> wrote:
> Hi guys. Phusion Passenger author here. I would very much support
> standardization of encoding issues.

> At this point, I don't really care what the standard is, as long as
> it's a sane standard that everybody can follow.

Fair enough.  Would you/Phusion be comfortable taking the lead here?
This feels like another "hot potato" issue :>

> In my opinion, following Encoding.default_external is not helpful.
> Most users have absolutely no idea how to configure
> Encoding.default_external, or even know that it exists. I've also
> never, ever seen anybody who does *not* want default_external to be
> UTF-8. If it's not set to UTF-8, then it's always by accident (e.g.
> the user not knowing that it depends on LC_CTYPE, that LC_CTYPE is set
> differently in the shell than from an init script, or even what
> LC_CTYPE is).

Perhaps we need to educate users to set LC_CTYPE/LC_ALL/LANG so
Encoding.default_external works as intended?  Adding another
option to Rack will just as likely to get missed.

Maybe servers could emit a big warning saying:

    WARNING: Encoding.default_external is not UTF-8 ...

And add a --quiet-utf8-warning option for the few folks who really do
not want UTF-8.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-04  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-02  7:51 Please move to github Gary Grossman
2014-08-02  7:54 ` Kapil Israni
2014-08-02  8:02   ` Eric Wong
2014-08-02  8:50 ` Eric Wong
2014-08-02 19:07   ` Gary Grossman
2014-08-02 19:33     ` Michael Fischer
2014-08-04  7:22       ` Hongli Lai
2014-08-04  8:48         ` Eric Wong [this message]
2014-08-04  9:46           ` Rack encodings (was: Please move to github) Hongli Lai
2014-08-02 20:15     ` Please move to github Eric Wong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-08-05  5:56 Rack encodings (was: Please move to github) Gary Grossman
2014-08-05  6:28 ` Eric Wong

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:

  List information: https://yhbt.net/unicorn/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20140804084806.GA22323@dcvr.yhbt.net \
    --to=e@80x24.org \
    --cc=gary.grossman@gmail.com \
    --cc=hongli@phusion.nl \
    --cc=mfischer@zendesk.com \
    --cc=michael@grosser.it \
    --cc=unicorn-public@bogomips.org \


* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox


This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).