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From: Sam Saffron <sam.saffron@gmail.com>
To: Hongli Lai <hongli@phusion.nl>
Cc: "Bráulio Bhavamitra" <braulio@eita.org.br>,
	unicorn-public <unicorn-public@bogomips.org>,
	"Hitendra Hugo Melo" <hitendra@riseup.net>
Subject: Re: No, passenger 5.0 is not faster than unicorn :)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:05:34 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAtdryPyLu0LBk9Gh_O3it-BXq_A_B-RnftRmVM=SKB7AcydCQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM3ce8HK_bDu1WbnZxGvZJPPw4eLvbBKWrhRoQNf96FDKBkaYQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, anonymous caching is super critical, we monkey it in here:
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/lib/middleware/anonymous_cache.rb
to be honest this really should be part of rails.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Hongli Lai <hongli@phusion.nl> wrote:
> Unicorn *is* in general very good and very efficient, no doubt about that.
> Eric Wong has made great design choices and is an excellent programmer.
>
> Having said that, in certain specific cases there's still room for
> improvement. That's why we focused so much on microoptimizations and
> specific optimizations like turbocaching. Have you followed Phusion
> Passenger's Server Optimization Guide?
> https://www.phusionpassenger.com/documentation/ServerOptimizationGuide.html
>
> Also, you have to ensure that your Rails app sets the correct caching
> headers. By default, Rails sets "Cache-Control: private, no-store" so that
> the turbocache cannot kick in. You should see very different results if you
> add "headers['Cache-Control'] = 'public'" to your Rails app. If you need
> any help with this, please feel free to contact me off-list. I'd be happy
> to help. We have also a benchmarking kit so that you can double check the
> results; email me if you're interested in this.
>
> As Sam said, most of the time will be spent in the Rails app. But
> turbocaching is one notable exception: it's the one feature that can speed
> things up even if your app is slow - provided that you set HTTP caching
> headers correctly.
>
> Unicorn is excellent at what it does: it's a minimal server with a specific
> I/O model that is supposed to be used behind a buffering reverse proxy.
> There is nothing wrong with that, and for the workloads that it's designed
> for, it's great. Phusion Passenger has merely chosen a non-generalist
> approach that aims to squeeze additional performance from specific cases.
> Of course, nothing's a silver bullet. Like any tool, it only works if you
> use it correctly.
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Bráulio Bhavamitra <braulio@eita.org.br>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've just tested a one instance each (one worker with unicorn and
>> --max-pool-size 1 passenger 5) on the rails app I work.
>>
>> And the results are just as I expected, no miracle at all: Unicorn is
>> still the fatest!
>> (the difference is only a few milliseconds less per request)
>>
>> The blocking design of unicorn is proving itself very efficient.
>>
>> cheers!
>> bráulio
>>
>>
>
>
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>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-03 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-03  9:50 No, passenger 5.0 is not faster than unicorn :) Bráulio Bhavamitra
2014-12-03  9:56 ` Sam Saffron
2014-12-03  9:57   ` Sam Saffron
2014-12-03 11:00 ` Hongli Lai
2014-12-03 11:05   ` Sam Saffron [this message]
2014-12-03 12:42     ` Xavier Noria
2014-12-03 14:10   ` Bráulio Bhavamitra

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